Labour leadership
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
That piece is replete with Campbellisms - of course Corbyn is going to face "the pressures of real, difficult decisions and the day to day leadership of the main Opposition" and "need to rely on others showing discipline he has never shown himself"; Alistair and his Blairite chums are going to go around ensuring that all of those crises exist.
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The full data breakdown is up on YouGov already.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/10/corbyn-pull-ahead/
He's blitzing all comers in every membership category.
Well, unless they fix it then it looks like he has it, surely?
loads of info (and I' m not one of his supporters) are you stupid?
again - pretty easy to find out FFS
J Ed
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- Tuesday 9 June 2015 – Nominations open
- Monday 15 June 2015 (12:00) – Nominations for the Leader close
- Wednesday 17 June 2015 (12:00) – Nominations for the Deputy Leader close
- Wednesday 17 June 2015 (12:00) – Hustings period opens
- Friday 31 July 2015 (12:00) – Supporting nominations close
- Wednesday 12 August 2015 (12:00) – Last date to join as member, affiliated support or registered supporter and be able to vote
- Friday 14 August 2015 – Ballot papers are sent out
- Thursday 10 September 2015 (12:00) – Ballot closes
- Saturday 12 September 2015 – Special Conference to announce the results
No, but you are an ignorant and unpleasant twat.
So voting takes place over nearly a month, still time for big upsets, dirty tricks, etc.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I like the way that, the more top labour brass and ex-brass warn against voting for Corbyn, the more people are seeming to decide to vote for him.
i can't help thinking that doing the opposite of what tony blair and alistair campbell want you to do is a fairly reasonable action...
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Highlights from the you gov poll -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ed-landslide-53-6230347#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Astonishing stuff. Those millitant tendancy entryists and trolling telegraph readers have excelled themselves - seems lots of them joined labour before the last election.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ed-landslide-53-6230347#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Astonishing stuff. Those millitant tendancy entryists and trolling telegraph readers have excelled themselves - seems lots of them joined labour before the last election.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
19% of Corbyn supporters don't think he's likely to win the next election, but are going to vote for him anyway. 
That's probably a worrying statistic as those will be the people who're most likely to be able to be scared into voting for someone they're told is more electable, and that's a big enough proportion of his support base to really put it on a knife edge.
Would the Labour Party actually put their principles before electing someone they viewed as being more electable? Possibly this time because only a tiny majority think that Burnham is likely to win it, and most of them are only in the fairly likely to win it camp, so they're not really buying the idea that any of the others are particularly electable.
That's probably a worrying statistic as those will be the people who're most likely to be able to be scared into voting for someone they're told is more electable, and that's a big enough proportion of his support base to really put it on a knife edge.
Would the Labour Party actually put their principles before electing someone they viewed as being more electable? Possibly this time because only a tiny majority think that Burnham is likely to win it, and most of them are only in the fairly likely to win it camp, so they're not really buying the idea that any of the others are particularly electable.
Similar to the other candidates in that regard though. For Burnham amongst his own supporters, it's still 11% and he's the lowest. Amongst Corbyn supporters, they think Corbyn is the most likely to win.19% of Corbyn supporters don't think he's likely to win the next election, but are going to vote for him anyway.
That's probably a worrying statistic as those will be the people who're most likely to be able to be scared into voting for someone they're told is more electable, and that's a big enough proportion of his support base to really put it on a knife edge.
Would the Labour Party actually put their principles before electing someone they viewed as being more electable? Possibly this time because only a tiny majority think that Burnham is likely to win it, and most of them are only in the fairly likely to win it camp, so they're not really buying the idea that any of the others are particularly electable.
Ther is an oddity in the data I don't understand. Corbyn exceeds 50% for both ABC1 and C2DE. this surely isn't possible given that his total is less than 50%. Or is there another category than A-E?
Nope. He has 53% support for first preference votes in that poll. 51% of ABC1 and 57% of C2DE
charlie mowbray
The Enforcer
Yawn!
Is it someone's nap time?
The Corbyn thing isn't really about Corbyn though from my pov.
It's more about the other candidates being so anodyne.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Corbyn gets in though. The impression I get is that he is not remotely ready for actually assuming the leadership and the question then is whether (i) he compromises or (ii) he presses forward on his current prospectus.
Although I voted Labour (that vote being irrelevant under FPTP anyway...), I would struggle to muster an argument in favour of any of the candidates this time round.
It is an appallingly weak field.
It's more about the other candidates being so anodyne.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Corbyn gets in though. The impression I get is that he is not remotely ready for actually assuming the leadership and the question then is whether (i) he compromises or (ii) he presses forward on his current prospectus.
Although I voted Labour (that vote being irrelevant under FPTP anyway...), I would struggle to muster an argument in favour of any of the candidates this time round.
It is an appallingly weak field.
But the obvious point is that there are two elections going on here.
First, the election to Labour leadership which is dependent on the Labour franchise.
Second, the general election to Prime Minister which is dependent on the UK franchise.
They are quite different things.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
if they read that poll - and don't dismiss it out of hand - they really should start to shut the fuck up about 'infiltration' as it (to the miserly extent it actually exists) is obviously irrelevant to the result. Shits like Sheerman cant be stupid enough to not realise that every word they say pushes more people to Corbyn, and the more he just fucks off that majority of existing Labour members who will vote for him.
rekil
to menny cranks
Have you seen the shoddy Liz Kendall ones?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I was going to say exactly thatHave you seen the shoddy Liz Kendall ones?
Mind you she has never looked to me to have leadership potential, nor Burnham or Cooper for that matter. There is only one who seems to be filling halls across the country and that's Corbyn.
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