Labour leadership
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free spirit
more tea vicar?
standing room only in Leeds from the looks of it.
(should have gone I guess, but knackered)
standing room only in Leeds from the looks of it.
(should have gone I guess, but knackered)
See the Unite/Unite Community people are there.
btw, I wonder what it would be like if the students were back.
remember this is august, holiday time, lucky to get 20 people to a meeting of any kind.
Those rays are sometimes called "Jacob's Ladder"; a journey in quite the opposite direction, how symbolic.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
It's Lord Anthony Wedgewood Benn pronouncing 'this is my son, in whom I am pleased'
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Its interesting that the attacks on Corbyn - well the ones that go beyond "Urggh! Beard and sandals Stalinist lunatic!" are focusing on his anti-austerity position ("to win labour needs to be credible on the economy" etc) - which is a position lot of people agree with and potentially a load more could be persuaded on.
What I haven't seen mentioned much is the stuff that would probably stop him winning an election - withdrawal from nato, scrapping trident, being seen as "soft" on immigration and "terrorism". Come a general election - this is what the tories and the media - and UKIP - will be crucifying him on.
What I haven't seen mentioned much is the stuff that would probably stop him winning an election - withdrawal from nato, scrapping trident, being seen as "soft" on immigration and "terrorism". Come a general election - this is what the tories and the media - and UKIP - will be crucifying him on.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Get thee behind me Satan!
Remember, the other JC didn't do too badly after crucifixion.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBH that isnt the best stick with which to judge anyone by, before it mattered Cameron said some sensible things on the subject.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Thing is at every meeting that JC does hes got a hundreds of people signing up to labour to support him. Hes got over 50k "likes" in his facebook page. I expect their will be a big push to get those people to register over the next few days as the deadline approaches.
That may be enough to push him over the line - I wonder how many people are joining to vote for the insipid three? Andy Burnhams has 17k facebook likes, Coopers 20k, Kendals 6k - and im guessing these will be from within labours existing membership whears Corbyns is going beyond that.
Wasn't OMOV and the £3 entry fee an idea from the blairites? LOL.
If Corbyn doesn't win hes going to be pretty bloody close.
That may be enough to push him over the line - I wonder how many people are joining to vote for the insipid three? Andy Burnhams has 17k facebook likes, Coopers 20k, Kendals 6k - and im guessing these will be from within labours existing membership whears Corbyns is going beyond that.
Wasn't OMOV and the £3 entry fee an idea from the blairites? LOL.
If Corbyn doesn't win hes going to be pretty bloody close.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
yep, Millibands sop to them to prove he wasn't in hoc to the unions I think.
Though I do wonder if whoever was responsible for sorting it out actually knew what they were doing.
Hoisted by their own petard, hopefully.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Don't think those like figures are as good as you do. That's partly because most of the 43k lined up against him are likely to vote for the other blairites as second choice (though he'd get some of burhams if he was eliminated). Other thing is the other candidates' likers are indeed much more likely to already be registered.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
They just wanted it to be like American primaries, though with Sanders doing reasonably well at the moment over there they might not be quite so keen on that model these days.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
JC has 2 pages though, each with well over 50k likes.
Many of those will be the same people, but there's probably at least 75k different people between them. The campaign team are working that quite well to ensure people sign up, and encourage others to sign up as well.
I'm also wondering what the relative size is of all the constituency parties that have come out to support Corbyn vs the others.
Ole
Well-Known Member
Just to offer something a bit more concrete than Facebook 'likes', this was in The Mirror the other day.
Labour Party membership soaring at fastest rate for 64 YEARS as thousands sign up for leadership vote
That's 70,000 that have joined the Labour Party after the GE, and another 70,000 that have signed up as registered supporters without joining the party.
Labour Party membership soaring at fastest rate for 64 YEARS as thousands sign up for leadership vote
That's 70,000 that have joined the Labour Party after the GE, and another 70,000 that have signed up as registered supporters without joining the party.
Ole
Well-Known Member
A clearer picture of the figures has been obtained by Sky News.
Labour: Half Eligible To Vote Are New Sign-Ups
There are currently around 270,000 members of the Labour Party, of which 200,000 were members before the election.
In addition, 70,000 have joined as affiliated supporters (mainly through trade unions) and 50,000 have paid £3 to sign up as a registered supporter. That’s a total of 190,000 people joining up since the election.
I think it's likely that the vast majority of that 190,000 are Corbyn voters. On the other hand the vast majority of the 200,000 pre-election membership will be anti-Corbyn. It's going to be tight.
Labour: Half Eligible To Vote Are New Sign-Ups
There are currently around 270,000 members of the Labour Party, of which 200,000 were members before the election.
In addition, 70,000 have joined as affiliated supporters (mainly through trade unions) and 50,000 have paid £3 to sign up as a registered supporter. That’s a total of 190,000 people joining up since the election.
I think it's likely that the vast majority of that 190,000 are Corbyn voters. On the other hand the vast majority of the 200,000 pre-election membership will be anti-Corbyn. It's going to be tight.
Ole
Well-Known Member
I suppose it's largely just anecdotally that the Labour members I've been talking to are mainly all against him. I've seen plenty of support for Corbyn but mainly from trade unionists. I'm also just being pessimistic. You make a fair point about the CLPs.
Yes - but far from cleanly split. Everyone on that side is sure that Kendall won't win and I reckon will be swinging behind Burnham/Cooper as first and second in either order.
well, the constituency noms suggest otherwise. I fully expect a number of people to be scared by the relentlessly negative press Corbyn has been getting into voting 'pragmatically' for Burnham or whatever, but there certainly isn't an overwhelming majority of long-time members against him.
Last time this happened, I had a vote in the deputy contest (not in Gordon's coronation though) - Unite member at the time, didn't have to do anything.
This time I have a vote as a Unison member, though I had to tick a box online to get it.
In what way does this make me a 'new sign up'?
This time I have a vote as a Unison member, though I had to tick a box online to get it.
In what way does this make me a 'new sign up'?
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