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SpackleFrog said:
I know of one or two who say they're going too. But they've not done it yet and I think its nearly too late. Tony Mulhearn says he's applied to rejoin as a member but he does that all the time, I think it amuses him.

Personally I'm quite fucked off with anyone even thinking of doing it, but sadly I'm in a minority of one when it comes to demanding expulsions apparently.

But yeah, we've done fuck all to warrant the most press coverage we've had in years.
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Yes, there is something ironic about the far left having its greatest moment of influence by signing up as. supporters of a neo liberal party.
 
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do you really think this silly season fluff amounts to influence? strikes me that when say 60,000 people vote for Corbyn, and a couple of hundred thousand vote for the others the left will have exposed just how little influence it has.
 
I mean that the 'left' has very little influence - and that signing up to a neo lib party is a bizarre (and so probably appropriate) way of showing it.
 
newbie said:
do you really think this silly season fluff amounts to influence? strikes me that when say 60,000 people vote for Corbyn, and a couple of hundred thousand vote for the others the left will have exposed just how little influence it has.
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Numbers is what this boils down to and I think yours are what the Blairites thought they were. I think reality may well yet bite
 
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Supine said:
they want to downplay all the new members and hunt down the wrong types.
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"The wrong sort" is how they'd put it. But yes it is ludicrous that Labour's reacting to the fact it's pulling activists and voters away from left groups for the first time in years by panicking about entryism rather than, for example, rubbing their hands with glee that they're successfully diverting large numbers of their most trenchant critics into paying them money to jump at mad (and soon to be embarrassing) dreams of reform through Corbyn.
 
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Looks like a decent turnout in Bradford last night.

1500 signed up for tonight's meeting at Royal Armories in Leeds where the main hall only holds 1000.
 
I guess Harriet won't give me a vote either, then. I think she'd be left with about fifty voters, which would be fine by her.
 
magneze said:
Or social media merely reflected public opinion...
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IMO social media in this context works to reinforce public opinion and counter mainstream media narratives, plus helping to fill these meetings, and build the sense of momentum that a campaign like this needs in order to motivate further people to join etc.

That level of engagement probably means the posts were viewed around 2.5-3 million times between the 2 corbyn pages, a lot of which will have been repeat views on the same people's walls by people who're likely to be broadly sympathetic to his campaign (due to the way facebook works).

The Corbyn campaign's social media and internet campaign in general all seems to be surprisingly well run to me, far better than any of the other candidates. Actually that counts for the entire campaign, I just notices he's not just speaking in Leeds today, he's also in Doncaster and York, so his team are obviously able to sort out a fairly packed campaign schedule.

In contrast I can't even find any events that cooper or burnham are doing. Are they running scared of actually meeting with the party's supporters?
 
free spirit said:
1500 signed up for tonight's meeting at Royal Armories in Leeds where the main hall only holds 1000.
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He's also speaking at the Islamic centre on spencer place in chapeltown/harehills in an hour, which might be a bit more roomy ;) (only about 60 down as attending)
 
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More desperate drivel in the guardian -

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-like-me-not-cynics-corbynites-pure-socialism

Corbyn is wrong and the 'centrists' are right cos Stalin, purges, gulags etc.

Thanks Johnathon Jones - without your wisdom i would have never have realised that wanting to build some more council houses could put one on the path of such evil.

what effect do these wankers think this shite will have on their target audience? It can only reinforce the image of the labour establishment and their media cheerleaders as a bunch of out of touch, pompous, fuck wits.
 
Anybody catch the Corbyn interview on R5 last night? Transcript below. What it doesn't show is that Nolan called Kate Hoey and asked her to condemn the IRA which she willingly did and which he played back no doubt to contrast with JC. Definitely a hatchet job by the BBC or their contracted employee.

Your favourite search engine will show how Nolan's divisive strategy has had some effect among the non thinkers.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...anscript-of-his-nolan-interview-31430884.html
 
belboid said:
'twas rammed in Donny, spilled out of the doors. He's meant to be in Sheffield next saturday
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I predict Sheff will be massive, though more interested in the crowds view, do they get a chance to speak?

who is organising it?
free spirit said:
IMO social media in this context works to reinforce public opinion and counter mainstream media narratives, plus helping to fill these meetings, and build the sense of momentum that a campaign like this needs in order to motivate further people to join etc.

That level of engagement probably means the posts were viewed around 2.5-3 million times between the 2 corbyn pages, a lot of which will have been repeat views on the same people's walls by people who're likely to be broadly sympathetic to his campaign (due to the way facebook works).

The Corbyn campaign's social media and internet campaign in general all seems to be surprisingly well run to me, far better than any of the other candidates. Actually that counts for the entire campaign, I just notices he's not just speaking in Leeds today, he's also in Doncaster and York, so his team are obviously able to sort out a fairly packed campaign schedule.

In contrast I can't even find any events that cooper or burnham are doing. Are they running scared of actually meeting with the party's supporters?
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Its Kat Fletcher, former NUS President, very sharp
 
Kaka Tim said:
More desperate drivel in the guardian -

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-like-me-not-cynics-corbynites-pure-socialism

Corbyn is wrong and the 'centrists' are right cos Stalin, purges, gulags etc.

Thanks Johnathon Jones - without your wisdom i would have never have realised that wanting to build some more council houses could put one on the path of such evil.

what effect do these wankers think this shite will have on their target audience? It can only reinforce the image of the labour establishment and their media cheerleaders as a bunch of out of touch, pompous, fuck wits.
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lots of straw men and women in that article
 
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