Labour leadership
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You can't abstain if you haven't got the right to vote.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
I don't think that's true at all. Which senior Labour figure reminds you of Dandred?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
thats correct. I'm glad you noticed.You can't abstain if you haven't got the right to vote.
Flavour
hang the bankers
Mandelson today going on about reaching out to the aspirant classes.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
"unison? they're not that bad"
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Did he mock Andrew Marr for not having made it to the House of Lords and for just being a journalist on a pathetic BBC income? Did he then call him "stroke boy" and mime cardiac collapse before pointing at Marr and snickering?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
guacamole cunt.
Flavour
hang the bankers
I like the insinuation the Andrew Marr is on some sort of an intellectual par with DotCommunist.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
reaching out to the aspirant - achieved? - classes does not require one to speak in a vile and disgusting way to those less fortunate than oneself.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i rather like the insinuation articul8 is on some sort of intellectual par with a gnat
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Dottie won't.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
why not write a little ditty for dotty
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'd be very surprised if Chukka or THunt have a snowballs chance of getting elected unless the supporter category really is used effectively by the pluralist slime - they're just the biggest opportunists (getting in there early) I would even be surprised if both of them get enough nominations.
I would guess the three current frontrunners haven't even declared yet properly even if one of them has registered a website
TBF, the membership base is small enough that whoever is chosen, it's not going to look representative of anything except the rump Labour Party's desire for power. It certainly won't look like democracy in action, even allowing "associate members" a vote.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You don't inherit your class status. What sort of pissant has to call on the class status of his parents to lend credibility to his claimed class?
You plum.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Bigger truth, world in a grain of sand. Anyway, next you'll be telling me John Major didn't tuck his shirt into his undercrackers.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
people like that were never considered squeezed, certainly not by the 99.999999999999% of the 'middle' who don't write for the Torygraph. i do hear that kind of guff, as do friends and workmates, but they get the same derisive laugh as the kind of idiot (real life example coming up..) who fucks themselves on an interest only mortgate, pays off no capital, buys two new German cars every 3 years, spends £3k on a fucking dog, has two US holidays a year, has new - expensive - clothes every time i see them, happily spends several grand to play fucking golf in portugal for a weekend, and then complains endlessly about being skint.
no union i'm afraid - i've done better than many/most PS on the pay and pension front, but its not going to be what i was told it was going to be. do not, however, think that i'm crying like a princess with no sweets. i'm fucking lucky and i know it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That "re-connection with the...middle class" was also touted on the radio this morning by Liz Kendall, who's supposedly a "front runner" in the ruck to replace Miliband.
They really don't have a fucking clue, and are going to see their core vote bleed even more to any party that promises to actually do something for labour.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
IIRC that was in The Guardian. How the other half fucking lives, eh?
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Alastair Campbell - the author of that particular gem - is probably the figure from the Blair years that the party misses most. He could have invented some brilliant stuff about the Bullingdon mob. I don't even know who was supposed to be chief of spin for Ed.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
If my dog was ill and his insurance wouldn't cover treatment, I'd spend £3k on him without thinking about it for a moment. Surely any dog owner would?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, I loathe the project he undertook and I loathe the tools he used, but I almost admire him. Having said that, seeing him on the various chat/political progs of late, he seems to have lost his edge slightly. Not quite as vicious and not quite as on the money.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
its not mutually exclusive - in fact i'd say that Labours loss of the 'middle' is as much to do with its lack of ambition for society than anything else.
Labours 'offer' to the middle was 'we won't do anything that will really change the problems of our economy, we'll just skim a bit more off to make life a bit less intolerable for those with the misfortune to be at the shitty end of the stick'. its a shit offer, throw in a couple of episodes of Benefit Street and its nothing at all.
a Labour party that had a passion, a real plan for a vastly better society - and this chimes with John Manns' criticism that Miliband had no interest in where societys' money came from, just as long as he could spend it - might have achieved a very different result: where was the clarion call for an HS2 network that went to Glasgow, Edinburgh, Swansea and Penzance by 2030? where was Labours' clarion call for building 750,000 social sector homes by 2025? where was Labours call to reestablish the UK shipbuilding industry by providing the RN with the 35 escorts that Labour said were required (instead of the pitiful 19 that we'll get because Labour were too busy buying off voters to pay for them)?
i've vote for that, happily, even though it would cost me a hefty tax rise - but it i'd vote for it because it would help fix problems instead of just putting an expensive sticking plaster over them.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
A muzzled Malcolm Tucker.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
buying it, not keeping it well. nasty little shit of thing is is too - they can't have it in the house with their kids. laugh? i nearly shat a kidney.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
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