Labour & Anti-Semitism.

[Shechemite]

. I know MadeInBedlam doesn't like them.

Tell us what you think of Grayzone/Blumenthal/Norton toblerone

 

[Proper Tidy]

I would be interested in other people's take on Jewish Voice for Labour. I know MadeInBedlam doesn't like them.

There might be ok but misguided people in it but there is also pure absolute filth. The former I'm not sure about, the latter I am certain of.

 

[Shechemite]

There’s also a fair few genuinely vulnerable (eg due to Mental health) people taken in

JVL is a cult. An antisemitic hate cult that is.

 

[toblerone3]

Tell us what you think of Grayzone/Blumenthal/Norton toblerone

Dont know but Goliath sounds like an interesting book to read.

Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Shechemite]

From the long-Bailey campaign trail

 

[Shechemite]

Could you make a bit of effort to understand the groups/individuals you are defending toblerone3 ?

 

[toblerone3]

There’s also a fair few genuinely vulnerable (eg due to Mental health) people taken in

JVL is a cult. An antisemitic hate cult that is.

Wow that's pretty strong stuff. I didn't get that impression through talking to David Rosenberg. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy and an real expert in the history of anti-semitism especially as it related to the Cable Street history (which in case you don't know Battle of Cable Street - Wikipedia) in East London. We went for a lovely walk in East London and ate with him and in a Shadwell cafe afterwards. To say somebody who is immersed in that history and comes across as a really nice guy is part of an anti-semitic hate cult. Not that doesn't seem right. Sorry you are not convincing me at all.

 

[CNT36]

OK there are a number of them making comparisons between the Holocaust and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Does that mean that any picture of his is tainted by association. I notice that that there doesn't seem to be a signature on the one I posted. Is anything that he does tainted by association even when it makes a valid and non anti-semitic point?

Yes.
If your man posted an image not knowing it was by an antisemite that is possibly a mitigating factor for him. However the way Latuff depicts Jewish people is antisemitic no matter what the message is supposed to be.

 

[toblerone3]

There might be ok but misguided people in it but there is also pure absolute filth. The former I'm not sure about, the latter I am certain of.

Can you give details about the 'pure absolute filth' from your experience?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Can you give details about the 'pure absolute filth' from your experience?

Mate, this thread was resuscitated yesterday because of an investigation which recorded a senior JVL figure appearing at a brown red meeting of holocaust deniers

 

[toblerone3]

Mate, this thread was resuscitated yesterday because of an investigation which recorded a senior JVL figure appearing at a brown red meeting of holocaust deniers

Which post was that I can't find the link.

Eta is it Elleanne Green??
Alison Chabloz?
Miko Peled?
Ian Fantom?

FFS this is all such a witch hunt smear campaign!! Its all guilty by association. He once liked a post by some who once knew somebody who shook hands with somebody else.

i get it that there are some people/issues that need addressing, but the perspective on this is totally lacking.

 

[toblerone3]

Yes.
If your man posted an image not knowing it was by an antisemite that is possibly a mitigating factor for him. However the way Latuff depicts Jewish people is antisemitic no matter what the message is supposed to be.

I know its the messenger not the message.

 

[toblerone3]

Could you make a bit of effort to understand the groups/individuals you are defending toblerone3 ?

So what is your understanding then?

 

[Shechemite]

FFS this is all such a witch hunt smear campaign!! Its all guilty by association. .

And there we are

 

[TopCat]

Wow that's pretty strong stuff. I didn't get that impression through talking to David Rosenberg. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy and an real expert in the history of anti-semitism especially as it related to the Cable Street history (which in case you don't know Battle of Cable Street - Wikipedia) in East London. We went for a lovely walk in East London and ate with him and in a Shadwell cafe afterwards. To say somebody who is immersed in that history and comes across as a really nice guy is part of an anti-semitic hate cult. Not that doesn't seem right. Sorry you are not convincing me at all.

David Rosenburg always had good links with Gerry Gable of Searchlight fame and was reputed to have been the Guardian's security services link man. He accused Class War (in 1984) of being run by ex leading members of the National Front. Total bolloks, without any foundation. This was just stirring shit to disrupt growing alliances.

 

[toblerone3]

And there we are

Are you agreeing with me or not?

 

[Shechemite]

You’re an embarrassment toblerone. I think we can agree on that

 

[toblerone3]

What is the relevance of criticism of "whataboutery" to this debate?

 

[Shechemite]

Lol you nutter

 

[toblerone3]

Instead of posting passive agressive sneary bollocks insults why don't you actually post something about what you think.

 

[Shechemite]

Answer me Jew!

 

[two sheds]

where did toblerone suggest that?

 

[toblerone3]

Tell us what you think of Grayzone/Blumenthal/Norton toblerone

Why don't you tell us what you think of them?

 

[Shechemite]

where did toblerone suggest that?

where did he repeatedly demand I respond to his increasingly demented rants?

he outed himself with his ‘WITCHUNT’ (in enlarged text, for some reason) post.

He is owed nothing

 

[Shechemite]

where did toblerone suggest that?

Why don't you tell us what you think of them?

errrrrr

 

[two sheds]

Looks to me like he was asking for answers and you were just sneering, hence his irritation.

errrrrr

I meant the "Jew!" comment.

 

[Shechemite]

No manners, despite living here all their lives

 

[toblerone3]

Answer me Jew!

What is the meaning of this complaint? Assuming this is directed at me. I don't get it.

 

[two sheds]

No manners, despite living here all their lives

No, I don't think toblerone has suggested that either.

 

[Shechemite]

No, I don't think toblerone has suggested that either.

Good for you. I’ve got work now; you can take over babysitting toblerone