Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Genuine question: what does "knows Corbyn personally" mean here? Just someone you run into on the street ocassionally? Bosom buddies bound by deep ties of comradeship? Or somewhere in between? Or neither?
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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Genuine question: what does "knows Corbyn personally" mean here? Just someone you run into on the street ocassionally? Bosom buddies bound by deep ties of comradeship? Or somewhere in between? Or neither?
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Dunno. Some parties claimed they were close personal friends, corbyn's office said they were aquaintences and facebook friends. If I had to hazard a guess I'd say its probably somewhere in between.
Anyway I'm not truing to do some gotcha, my point is that the political culture on left that allows this to happen, that means antisemites and conspiracists go unnoticed or unchallenged, that means there is persistently 'a few loons on the fringe', should be probed and interrogated. Bizarre this is contentious really.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Can't argue with that. The whole "you're a cunt" aspect to this place may have its drawbacks, but it does at least permit a certain degree of political hygiene.
If you don't want your flanks to be overrun, don't expose them to the enemy.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I wonder what attracts headbanging racists to the ‘continuity Corbyn’ candidate.
Such a mystery
www.theredroar.com
Such a mystery
Long-Bailey Facebook group rife with antisemitism
Antisemitic posts are rife in the largest Facebook group supporting Rebecca Long-Bailey, The Red Roar can reveal. Posts in the We Support Rebecca Long-Bailey group have blamed Jews for everything from inventing Labour’s antisemitism crisis to supplying the
www.theredroar.com
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
jewish voice for labour "grayzone" - Google Search
www.google.co.uk
JVL supporting, and supported by, those not in any way fascists at Grayzone.
because they care about austerity/the disabled/the Palestinians
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
And hopefully they will be gone out of the leadership of the labour party soon enough.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
And these ‘small number’ of antisemites will just take that lying down?
this clusterfuck will rage on for years.
you were told this would happen
this clusterfuck will rage on for years.
you were told this would happen
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Are you for or against Jewish Voice for Labour? and why?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Are you for or against an organisation that was set up to defend antisemites and which has links with Norton/Blumenthal/Grayzone?
toblerone3
Grrrrr
So you are against Jewish Voice for Labour. Really ^ 
I went on a Jewish East end Walk recently with David Rosenberg who apparently was one of the founders of Jewish Voice for Labour and I really didn't get the impression that he was an anti semite. I don't know who Norton, Blumenthal or Grayzone are. As an aside the shadow justice minister Richard Burgon was also on the walk and appeared to be very close to David Rosenberg. Is he also an anti semite?
Here is David Rosenberg writing in the Guardian about Cable Street which featured in the walk we went on. 'Antidote to far right's poison' – battle for Cable Street’s mural
I went on a Jewish East end Walk recently with David Rosenberg who apparently was one of the founders of Jewish Voice for Labour and I really didn't get the impression that he was an anti semite. I don't know who Norton, Blumenthal or Grayzone are. As an aside the shadow justice minister Richard Burgon was also on the walk and appeared to be very close to David Rosenberg. Is he also an anti semite?Here is David Rosenberg writing in the Guardian about Cable Street which featured in the walk we went on. 'Antidote to far right's poison' – battle for Cable Street’s mural
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
That there are people in this thread who gave learned nothing in the four years since it started.
what a joke the Left is.
what a joke the Left is.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
You have allied yourselves with those who either insane or scum (or both).
You will never get rid of them. They won’t leave without a fight. They will attack you incessantly.
this is your problem now.
You will never get rid of them. They won’t leave without a fight. They will attack you incessantly.
this is your problem now.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
another minor league nobody.
“Mehmood Mirza, vice chairman of the West Ham Labour Party, is alleged to have shared a cartoon showing a sticker with the words ‘Anti-Semitism’ placed across the mouth of a man who has a ‘Free Palestine’ band around his head. The image, posted onto Mr Mirza’s Facebook account, was created by Brazilian artists Carlos Latuff, who was previously accused of creating anti-Semitic content.”
Labour leadership race means anti-Semitism crisis STILL a huge problem
LABOUR has been accused of ignoring the party's anti-Semitism crisis due to the leadership race taking months to wrap up resulting in a lack of resources to tackle the issue.www.express.co.uk
What’s your plan belboid? The ‘media smears’ aren’t going to stop. Where next?
Could you post an image of the cartoon involved so that we can discuss it here?
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Was it similar to this one?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
What do you think of Latuff and his cartoons (the ones you’ve seen and read descriptions of) toblerone3 ?
toblerone3
Grrrrr
I haven't seen any of them until today when I did a quick image search. So before we get to discussing dozens of cartoons here. Could we discuss the one which I have posted. I think its message is that accusations of anti-semitism are being used to stifle legitimate pro-Palestinian sentiment and demonstrations. I think that is fair comment and not at all anti-semitic. What do you think?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I think you’re an idiot
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And the basis for your conclusion is...
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
his posts
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
2020 and even Carlos ‘Holocaust cartoon’ latuff is being defended
toblerone3
Grrrrr
No. I'm just saying that the cartoon I posted above seems to be fine. What holocaust cartoon are you talking about? Never seen it.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
toblerone3
Grrrrr
So you're agreeing that the the image itself is fine and not anti-semitic but that other stuff that the cartoonist did in the past is not. Is that right?
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Latuff is as anti semitic as they come. Take a little while to look at a range of his images rather than just one, and you'll soon see the cut of his jib.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Christ
toblerone3
Grrrrr
OK there are a number of them making comparisons between the Holocaust and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Does that mean that any picture of his is tainted by association. I notice that that there doesn't seem to be a signature on the one I posted. Is anything that he does tainted by association even when it makes a valid and non anti-semitic point?
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Fuck off. Stop being a twat. Just explain yourself politely.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
you people. No manners
toblerone3
Grrrrr
So you are against Jewish Voice for Labour. Really ^
Here is David Rosenberg writing in the Guardian about Cable Street which featured in the walk we went on. 'Antidote to far right's poison' – battle for Cable Street’s mural
I would be interested in other people's take on Jewish Voice for Labour. I know MadeInBedlam doesn't like them.
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