Kicking Off In Tottenham

[Streathamite]

"59. You must not use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health"

Recognise this?

bloody well done, blagsta!

 

[_angel_]

*Yawn*. Why do people on Urban do this? I got accused of not being female when I dared to disagree with the nodding dogs!

Very odd.

I dunno it is very odd. Seem to recall it happening to other posters as well (inc me!)

 

[Billie Piper]

Some sort of evidence as to your theory of de-evolution.

when you treat patients who have weeks to live, you have a very close interaction with their family and friends.

every day i deal with people who don't have jobs, are criminals, have no respect for their own community let alone anyone else's, who think the world owes them something and who abuse one the best things the uk has; the nhs. i see people who, compared to my parent's generation, have lost any desire to even work let alone try and better themselves. people who's main aim in life is to have respect from fellow gang members, and respect means flash cars, plasma tvs and doing as little as possible to get them, ie drug dealing and stealing.

i will hold my hands up and say that in my role i probably witness a disproportionate amount of the wasters and maybe that has made me biased/blinkered/racist/whoknows.

don't believe what i am saying? if you want to see this "evidence" with your own eyes, volunteer at a hospital.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Reports of shops closing down in Hackney (Stoke Newington, Narroway, Dalston), Stratford, Edmonton, Haringey, Walthamstow (Wood Street). Others?

No actual trouble though, as far as I can tell? Some sort of twitter/BB hysteria?

EDIT: Forest Gate.

 

[Spymaster]

Plod cover ups in cases like this seem to be so predictable.

I just think that if they were going to do it, they'd be better at it than you're giving them credit for!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

when you treat patients who have weeks to live, you have a very close interaction with their family and friends.

every day i deal with people who don't have jobs, are criminals, have no respect for their own community let alone anyone else's, who think the world owes them something and who abuse one the best things the uk has; the nhs. i see people who, compared to my parent's generation, have lost any desire to even work let alone try and better themselves. people who's main aim in life is to have respect from fellow gang members, and respect means flash cars, plasma tvs and doing as little as possible to get them, ie drug dealing and stealing.

i will hold my hands up and say that in my role i probably witness a disproportionate amount of the wasters and maybe that has made me biased/blinkered/racist/whoknows.

don't believe what i am saying? if you want to see this "evidence" with your own eyes, volunteer at a hospital.

wtf are you wittering about? Are hospital beds clogged up with gang members taking a couple of weeks' time out from their thievery as they blag yet another unnecessary operation from the good old gullible nhs?

 

[butchersapron]

when you treat patients who have weeks to live, you have a very close interaction with their family and friends.

every day i deal with people who don't have jobs, are criminals, have no respect for their own community let alone anyone else's, who think the world owes them something and who abuse one the best things the uk has; the nhs. i see people who, compared to my parent's generation, have lost any desire to even work let alone try and better themselves. people who's main aim in life is to have respect from fellow gang members, and respect means flash cars, plasma tvs and doing as little as possible to get them, ie drug dealing and stealing.

i will hold my hands up and say that in my role i probably witness a disproportionate amount of the wasters and maybe that has made me biased/blinkered/racist/whoknows.

don't believe what i am saying? if you want to see this "evidence" with your own eyes, volunteer at a hospital.

So fuck all evidence plus emotive whining. Still waiting nurse.

 

[Billie Piper]

"59. You must not use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health"

Recognise this?

indeed i do. your point?

 

[likesfish]

I can well imagine any A&E nurse having a rather jaundiced view of A&Es frequent customers at the weekend ever had the misfortune to spend time at an A&E at the weekend? full of people worst the wear from drink and or drugs behaving really really badly and treating staff who are trying to help them disgustingly.
there should be an NHS police force armed and equipped with dogs
there were allegedly Argentine .45s knocking about ulster as throw downs in case a dead Provo turned out not to be armed probably an urban myth though.

 

[Billie Piper]

So fuck all evidence plus emotive whining. Still waiting nurse.

yeah, no evidence at all. other than everything i've witnessed.

 

[Streathamite]

I dunno it is very odd. Seem to recall it happening to other posters as well (inc me!)

well yeah, but yours is a different case as it involves a certain ex-poster

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Maybe spoke too soon. Two people on twitter saying there are clashes with the police in Hackney Central/ by the town hall.

 

[Blagsta]

bloody well done, blagsta!

As it happens, I'm revising the NMC code of conduct today.

 

[belboid]

if you want to see this "evidence" with your own eyes, volunteer at a hospital.

how about you volunteer at a youth club in tottenham to see how full of shit you are?

oh no, you cant. Because they've shut them all.

 

[Blagsta]

when you treat patients who have weeks to live, you have a very close interaction with their family and friends.

every day i deal with people who don't have jobs, are criminals, have no respect for their own community let alone anyone else's, who think the world owes them something and who abuse one the best things the uk has; the nhs. i see people who, compared to my parent's generation, have lost any desire to even work let alone try and better themselves. people who's main aim in life is to have respect from fellow gang members, and respect means flash cars, plasma tvs and doing as little as possible to get them, ie drug dealing and stealing.

i will hold my hands up and say that in my role i probably witness a disproportionate amount of the wasters and maybe that has made me biased/blinkered/racist/whoknows.

don't believe what i am saying? if you want to see this "evidence" with your own eyes, volunteer at a hospital.

I suggest you require more and better supervision.

 

[Blagsta]

indeed i do. your point?

Maybe you need to re-read it.

 

[butchersapron]

i will hold my hands up and say that in my role i probably witness a disproportionate amount of the wasters and maybe that has made me biased/blinkered/racist/whoknows.

You might, I reckon people like me see more of it. You see the end of it.

 

[Chrispeptide]

Perhaps because it isn't "basically the same" at all.

Notice how Streathamite doesn't say anything about aspiration and wishing? You decided to generalise those aspirations and wishes across the entirety of those involved.

Be a mensch, eh?

Seems to me that there are is an awful lot of generalisation going on in this thread! Those of you who seem to be apologists for the rioters trot out any old nonsense to try and explain away what is just basic criminality! You seem to be saying that everybody brought up in deprived circumstances will go on to be a failure in life, and that the acts of riot arson and wanton destruction are inevitable by-products of their dysfunctional lives.

But that's just not true is it? Most people don't behave like the idiot yobs we have witnessed over the last couple of nights, most people are basically good law-abiding citizens who just want a peaceful life.

What we are witnessing is the criminal minority who think it's cool to attack the police and smash stuff up, without a thought for their neighbours and their community.

 

[Spymaster]

So fuck all evidence plus emotive whining. Still waiting nurse.

To be fair to Billie, most casualty staff that I've known have had similar views.

 

[spitfire]

police copter has just arrived over mare street. I'm in Bethnal Green and there have been constant sirens for about an hour now. Haven't seen anything as i am staying put in my front room.

 

[Billie Piper]

Maybe you need to re-read it.

if you think having an opinion and promoting a cause are the same, you are mental.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

yeah, no evidence at all. other than everything i've witnessed.

Just to get this straight, you are talking about people needing medical attention for injuries incurred while fighting perhaps, while drunk, or whatever. In other words, you're passing moral judgement on them for the way they have incurred their injuries and accusing them of abusing the nhs because they need treatment?

They may be abusing each other, but they're not abusing the nhs. That's idiotic.

 

[Billie Piper]

To be fair to Billie, most casualty staff that I've known have had similar views.

no, you are wrong because apparently having a view on the patients you treat is "using professional status to promote causes that are not related to health".

what a load of horse shit.

 

[Blagsta]

if you think having an opinion and promoting a cause are the same, you are mental.

You sound desperate.

 

[Blagsta]

no, you are wrong because apparently having a view on the patients you treat is "using professional status to promote causes that are not related to health".

what a load of horse shit.

That's not all you've done is it.

 

[SpineyNorman]

you attempt to clutch at straws is very amusing.

Yes, he's the one clutching at straws.

 

[past caring]

To be fair to Billie, most casualty staff that I've known have had similar views.

Not a lot going for them then, nurses. These days, they've even made the uniform pretty poor wank material.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

no, you are wrong because apparently having a view on the patients you treat is "using professional status to promote causes that are not related to health".

what a load of horse shit.

If they require treatment, how are they abusing the nhs, please?

 

[spitfire]

actually it may have been the beebs chopper, it's on the telly now.

 

[Billie Piper]

Just to get this straight, you are talking about people needing medical attention for injuries incurred while fighting perhaps, while drunk, or whatever. In other words, you're passing moral judgement on them for the way they have incurred their injuries and accusing them of abusing the nhs because they need treatment?

They may be abusing each other, but they're not abusing the nhs. That's idiotic.

You are putting words in my mouth. i never said they are abusing the nhs merely because they need treatment.

regardless of how someone is presented at a&e/cancer ward/wherever, they will get the best treatment they need. i don't think it's wrong for me to make a judgement on how they got there as long as it doesn't affect how they are treated. i may giggle at child who got his head stuck in railings and i may dispair at the teenage who has been shot but how i treat them will not change.

when i talk of people abusing the nhs, i'm talking about people who miss appointments consistently, who steal equipment, who steal from other patients, who lie to get blue badges, who beat up our staff etc. you can require treatment AND abuse the nhs.