Kicking Off In Tottenham

[Pickman's model]

I for one was quite happy to believe the Duggan family's contention, and I don't see that this adds anything to it.

If anything it might allow the argument to be made that one dodgy individual was responsible, rather than them being decieved as a matter of Met police policy.

I'm not criticising you for posting the story, I'm questioning why the Standard have chosen to report it in the way they have, including the headline they've used, a big picture of Mark Duggan and the reminder that he was "responsible" for the Tottenham riots.

in the print edition of the standard they printed a photo of yer man's house.

 

[andysays]

Of course supporting evidence for their claim add somewthing to their claim.

You might - for some reason - want to separate general police behavior from specific incidents. I don't know why though. How much use is a general abstract criticism of the law vs its reall effects today? Get out the clouds lad.

You seem to be missing the point I'm attempting to make, perhaps because it doesn't coincide exactly with the one (the only one) you've already decided this story makes.

 

[brogdale]

in the print edition of the standard they printed a photo of yer man's house.

Was it a good advert for MRM Solutions?

 

[andysays]

in the print edition of the standard they printed a photo of yer man's house.

All I've seen is the online story.

Did the print edition not have a picture of Duggan?

 

[butchersapron]

You seem to be missing the point I'm attempting to make, perhaps because it doesn't coincide exactly with the one (the only one) you've already decided this story makes.

You haven't got a point other than there is no other acceptable points to be made.

 

[cesare]

Either the Met have manufactured this against him and leaked it and hung him out to dry.

Or the Met have separately found him out in this and tried to keep it quiet because otherwise people might make the obvious link.

The Met and him don't come out of it well. It stinks.

 

[andysays]

You haven't got a point other than there is no other acceptable points to be made.

Just because you can't see or won't accept that I have a point doesn't mean that I haven't.

 

[brogdale]

Detective Constable Alex Manz was dismissed in the middle of a ten-week inquest into the shooting of Duggan

To be dismissed in the middle of the inquiry must mean that there is a very good chance that the Met were aware of this at the time that he gave evidence to the inquiry.

 

[andysays]

Either the Met have manufactured this against him and leaked it and hung him out to dry.

Or the Met have separately found him out in this and tried to keep it quiet because otherwise people might make the obvious link.

The Met and him don't come out of it well. It stinks.

I certainly agree with all of that

 

[butchersapron]

Just because you can't see or won't accept that I have a point doesn't mean that I haven't.

Whatever point you have - oh no reporting this in relation to duggan means some odd stuff - has been dealt with by me telling you why it relates to Duggan.

 

[CNT36]

I think another way it is relevant is in that it shows just how much shit people have to put up with and the level of risk any one family can be in from the Police.

 

[Pickman's model]

All I've seen is the online story.

Did the print edition not have a picture of Duggan?

might have done, i remember the picture of manz looking stupid, the picture of his house and a picture of his business card.

if i was a suspicious man i'd have thought he was being set up.

 

[Pickman's model]

Was it a good advert for MRM Solutions?

only if you like your handymen to have been dismissed for attacking women.

 

[andysays]

might have done, i remember the picture of manz looking stupid, the picture of his house and a picture of his business card.

if i was a suspicious man i'd have thought he was being set up.

Yeah, I thought the picture of the ex-liaison officer and now handyman looked a bit WTF.

 

[brogdale]

only if you like your handymen to have been dismissed for attacking women.

..and 24 hr locksmith!

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah, I thought the picture of the ex-liaison officer and now handyman looked a bit WTF.

all you'd need is perhaps an hour (and probably much less) to locate yer man's house. anyone who fancies bashing a nonce could easily get their jollies with manz after reading the standard piece.

 

[brogdale]

Wasn't Manz one of the OB that actually reported that the firearm had been "thrown by the police"?

 

[butchersapron]

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[GarveyLives]

"The Tottenham Riots of 2011 paved the way for the club's new 62,000-capacity stadium and will be marked during an opening ceremony for the club's new £850million home ..."

Tottenham Hotspurs' new 62,000-capacity stadium

Mark Wayne Duggan

15 September 1981 - 4 August 2011​

Tottenham Riots of 2011 led to their new £850m stadium (click for more)