Kicking Off In Tottenham

[Luther Blissett]

Shops too: http://www.enfieldindependent.co.uk/news/localnews/9182572.Shops_targeted_by_rioters__says_witness/

SHOPS have been targeted by rioters in Enfield Town, according to a witness in a flat above one of the properties.
BBC reporter Tarah Welsh, who said she was visiting family, said concrete slabs were being thrown through shop windows in the main shopping streets.
She said on Twitter: “Police car wrecked in Enfield - most rioters looked under 16, lots of young girls throwing concrete slabs through shop windows.”
Riot police have forced around 50 people with hoods over their faces along Southbury Road via Queens Street after clashing with them outside Tesco.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I'm now a bit speechless....

Maybe next time you'll find out the facts rather than resorting to knee jerk reactions based only on prejudice, eh?

 

[quimcunx]

Nipsla reports there was another 'teenagers running incident' but all fine.

 

[roctrevezel]

Number of arrests from last night has reached 55, (Sky News ticker tape.)

 

[Barking_Mad]

So a copper was a radio width away from shooting and possibly killing another copper.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

The revelation will fuel the fury in Tottenham about the killing of Mark Duggan by armed officers.
It also undermines suggestions that there was an exchange of fire between Duggan and the police before he died.
The bullet which was found lodged in the radio of one of the officers at the scene is still undergoing forensic tests. But reliable sources have said the first ballistics examinations suggested it was a police issue bullet.
These are very distinct as the Metropolitan Police uses dum dum type hollowed out bullets designed not to pass through an object.
The early suggestion from the IPCC was that the Met officers had returned fire after someone in the minicab opened fire. But the result of the ballistics early test suggests both shots fired came from the police.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/07/tottenham-riots-police-duggan-live

 

[skitr]

Only read the first bit and was shocked by that, now read right to the end. So he didn't even fire a gun.

 

[London_Calling]

Would have been killed by a hollowed out dumb-dumb bullet, to boot.

 

[temper_tantrum]

Not really surprising, is it. Police bullet was the first query which came to my mind when I read about this.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

So, once again the police got their mates in the press to put out a pack of cynical self-serving lies about someone they'd killed ...

What a fucking surprise ...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I don't have time to read the whole thread, any more about the filth beating a sixteen year old lass for being a bit gobby?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

To be honest the only shit thing about the riot is no coppers got the chop broadwater farm style.

 

[Blagsta]

Has anyone seen this yet?

Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/07/tottenham-riots-police-duggan-live#block-44

 

[Barking_Mad]

Was the guy killed definitely carrying a gun?

 

[lopsidedbunny]

So no T.V. new coverage then strange that....

 

[roctrevezel]

Would have been killed by a hollowed out dumb-dumb bullet, to boot.

The press really do come out with some ill informed bollocks, personally I will wait for the forensics report.
Hollow point is a standard kind of round, states hollow point on the box. Designed not to do a through and through but stay in the body.
A criminal is just as likely to have hollow point ammo as the plod is, because it is more readily available.

 

[lopsidedbunny]

http://yfrog.com/h3lh9dbj raiding HMV...

 

[Barking_Mad]

I don't have time to read the whole thread, any more about the filth beating a sixteen year old lass for being a bit gobby?

One report suggests she approached police lines to remonstrate with them. Another that she threw stones.

 

[laptop]

Did the filth claim it was shot by old matey?

Not in so many words, that I've seen.

They said they found a gun in the cab.

Later, it was said (unoficially) that they'd found a bullet in a cop radio. Everyone left to draw their own conclusions.

They clearly realise that no-one believes a word they say when they've shot someone.

So they're all proper when they report gun incidents - "wait for the full facts to emerge..."

Except when (some cops suspect) it may be their fault, then, as now, we get leaks to suggest it isn't. Now, when the Met is being definite about a shooting, we have even better reason to suspect it's lying.

 

[lopsidedbunny]

http://yfrog.com/h7zg5pgj window broken...

 

[lopsidedbunny]

police line http://twitpic.com/62kpgj

 

[lopsidedbunny]

breaking into HMV http://yfrog.com/h8mt9hlaj

 

[Bernie Gunther]

We know the cops and the gutter press collude on a range of corrupt stuff, why should it be a surprise when their mates come out with cynical lies that the cops can't put in a press statement ...

Suspected gangster Mark Duggan, 29, fired a handgun at an armed cop, whose life was saved when the bullet hit his radio.
The officer returned fire with his Heckler & Koch MP5 sub-machine gun - blasting dad-of-five Duggan twice in the face before slumping to the ground.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...lfriend-to-say-The-feds-are-following-me.html

 

[Utopia]

Hmmmmmm, i've got a bad feeling about all this.

 

[lighterthief]

Except when (some cops suspect) it may be their fault, then, as now, we get leaks to suggest it isn't. Now, when the Met is being definite about a shooting, we have even better reason to suspect it's lying.

Who's leaking what and to whom?

 

[temper_tantrum]

Just a thought - this march next weekend might now get policed rather heavily?

http://transpont.blogspot.com/2011/08/demetre-fraser-demonstration.html

 

[lopsidedbunny]

http://twitpic.com/62kt5h quiet police line

 

[laptop]

Who's leaking what and to whom?

Probably, individual cops to journalists - in the case of the "bullet in the radio" thing I'd be almost sure it was this.

 

[lighterthief]

More fool the press for printing unsubstantiated rumours.

 

[BigTom]

Don't know if this has been posted, allegedly video of the girl being attacked by police in Tottenham