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Kicking Off In Tottenham

Your way of looking at the world is both appalling and incorrect, even in the face of my sneery disregard for Tottenham. The riot was not about the withdrawal of government funding of any sort (would that it was).

Bollocks to them and their crappy football team but also bollocks to you sir.

The culture of being dependent on benefits has created conditions that, when combined with other factors, has resulted in the scenes we saw last night.
 
I'm calm, just facepalming at all the dickheads who queue up trying to defend the young thugs who don't give a fuck about doing this over police brutality. There is NO political motivation for mindless opportunist looting of your local community. It's this shitty liberal apologetic crap that lets them get away with it and hide under the guise of real protest.

You look at the justice for Smiley campaign, far bigger numbers protesting in a totally peaceful way, showing how it should be done, and now inevitably their campaign will be undermined and be tainted by these fucking pricks in Tottenham. That's the real damage that has been done.

Didn't realise Brixton had exculsive rights to death by police cases. Must have missed a memo.
 
There were more last night, and if last night's posts were anything to go by, all you need is for it to be repeated and repeated

There were still people claiming there was riots going on in Brixton an hour after people had posted that nothing was happening in Brixton

you are being a tad over-dramtic.
 
ive got mates who live around there and they're posting the same sort of reactions as drew has tbf, in that the rioters were attacking shops and houses rather than anything else.

however, the riots obviously didn't happen for "no reason" and to be honest it's no real surprise things like this are starting to happen
 
Never known an inner city 'reaction' that hasn't involved looting. Among much else you get legit protesting, confrontationalists, and certainly opportunists.
 
I'm not being over-dramatic, I'm saying that the people on twitter are being over-dramatic! All sorts of nonsense about riots happening in Brixton last night

the power of twitter in this case is being over-rated. this isn't the Iranian Green Movement or the Arab Spring. Some comments on twitter about Brixton isn't going to stop thousands of people attending this. too much attention is paying paid twitter. frankly I find twitter a complete bore.
 
Has this perspective been getting much play in the media?

It is only now getting spread more round twitter.

@PaulLewis ( a guardian journo who went down last night) has appealed for reliable witnesses for this. Bit odd that no one else is saying it, tbh. You'd think anyone else at the initial protest would be.
 
the power of twitter in this case is being over-rated. this isn't the Iranian Green Movement or the Arab Spring. Some comments on twitter about Brixton isn't going to stop thousands of people attending this. too much attention is paying paid twitter. frankly I find twitter a complete bore.

I know it's not going to stop people coming to Brixton! :facepalm:

Probably bring a few extra if they think there might be some trouble to be had!

I'd quite like to go down myself for a wander but don't have time :(
 
You don't have a clue do you? The old Co-Op building is stunning, it was renovated to provide affordable housing, gorgeous flats with floor to ceiling windows. All gone, just charred remains left. The poor people who lived there. :(

I certainly don't agree with anyone but the riches home's being burnt down. But I cannot but cheer at the looting of large chain stores.
 
Can you give an example of a riot with no reason?

The best example is probably the Lozells riots from a few years ago, sparked by a rumour that was without foundation and which was spread by (and given credence by) people who should have known better.
 
Just been speaking to my ex who was at a rave on Fontaine Road and she says there was definitely an air of racial tension. The rioters were pretty much all black and she was advised by a white guy who's mate had been beaten up to leave the area. Now - this guy who was beaten up did have a pro video camera so I'm more inclined to think that's the reason but I wasn't there myself.
s'funny, i was there for two hours last night and saw nothing of the sort.
 
You don't have a clue do you? The old Co-Op building is stunning, it was renovated to provide affordable housing, gorgeous flats with floor to ceiling windows. All gone, just charred remains left. The poor people who lived there. :(

I certainly don't agree with anyone but the riches home's being burnt down. But I cannot but cheer at the looting of large chain stores.
 
riot after the Birmingham City v Millwall game a few years back
Millwall lost in the last minute to Birmingham City (who we loathed for good reason) and this caused a very tense atmosphere. When people were leaving the ground and were heading towards The Blue, the police put a line of police in full riot gear across the road causing a big panicky crush to develop. This crowd were still on the whole good natured and had many kids on dads shoulders, blokes with their wives and girlfriends etc. Then the police charged the crowd (who had no where to go) and batoned loads of people including kids on dads shoulders etc causing loads of nasty injuries and creating a palpable sense of rage and fury.

This mindless attack by the police on a largely peaceful crowd was the REASON that many people then took their kids and girlfriends home, came back, looted the adjacent scrap yard and pelted the police with the contents repeatedly.
 
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