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Keir Starmer's time is up

Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
There's also that general attitude thing isn't there - that whole idea that somehow the worst thing that can possibly happen is someone getting something you're not or that they apparently don't deserve has been key to the message the Tories and the tabloid press have been pushing out for years.
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indeed.

levelling down / race to the bottom.

the 'that group of people have had their life made worse, it's only fair that this group does as well' idea of 'fairness' that the tory press have been pushing for years.

bollocks to that.

and also bollocks to the idea that a pensioner who's getting slightly more than the pension credit level (about 220 quid a week) is 'wealthy'

and to the next thing they will float in a year or so, that it's 'unfair' that some pensioners still get WFA so it should be abolished to be 'fair'
 
PTK said:
"Nobody wants higher taxes, just like nobody wants public spending cuts" said Starmer, according to the BBC. ""But we have to be realistic about where we are as a country."
Starmer is not, after all, advocating that money be abolished.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tax rises needed to prevent austerity, says Keir Starmer

The prime minister says the UK is facing unprecedented challenges, but promises better days lie ahead.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I want public spending cuts... Defund the military and housing benefit to private landlords
 
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This is is the first poll I’ve seen that shows the Tories in the lead over Labour.

But what this polls really tells us is that the first visible traces of the death of the two party system are here. Reform, LD and Green now have a combined higher level of support than either of the two establishment parties.

5 more years of Starmer and Badenoch/Jenrick will only move the dial further….

 
Smokeandsteam said:
This is is the first poll I’ve seen that shows the Tories in the lead over Labour.

But what this polls really tells us is that the first visible traces of the death of the two party system are here. Reform, LD and Green now have a combined higher level of support than either of the two establishment parties.

5 more years of Starmer and Badenoch/Jenrick will only move the dial further….

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The question is at what point it starts to matter isn't it. At those levels I think the FPTP system would still overwhelmingly return MPs from the two main parties but at some point that has to start to change. What level that is though I don't know.
 
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
The question is at what point it starts to matter isn't it. At those levels I think the FPTP system would still overwhelmingly return MPs from the two main parties but at some point that has to start to change. What level that is though I don't know.
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It is. And you are right. At this stage nothing would change in a GE. But, I expect these numbers to move further as the reality of a Starmer/Reeves government embeds and the alternative option of the Tories is rejected by voters.

There was a by election near to here this week, with a 36% swing from Labour to Reform. The Greens almost beat Labour too. If I remember rightly Bilston once elected a communist Labour MP and has always been Labour.

www.bbc.com

Wolverhampton: Reform UK ousts Labour in Bilston North by-election

Anita Stanley secured the win in Bilston North, following the death of Labour councillor Sue Roberts.
www.bbc.com
 
I imagine Starmer will have another round of purges, aka Stalin, to get rid of any more competitors to his job, in the next month. Its why he is freeing up spaces in Prisons lately. Hes making room for Labour MP`s to go there.
 
Serene said:
I imagine Starmer will have another round of purges, aka Stalin, to get rid of any more competitors to his job, in the next month. Its why he is freeing up spaces in Prisons lately. Hes making room for Labour MP`s to go there.
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Or why he's taking his old Arsenal programmes out of the cellar...
 
hitmouse said:
One of the few positives of a Trump win, it will be very funny to watch Starmer's grovelling as he attempts to do an even-more-sickening 2020s remake of Bush-Blair:

www.bbc.co.uk

Keir Starmer congratulates Donald Trump in first call after US election

The PM and president-elect agreed UK-US relations will "continue to thrive", No 10 says.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I can well imagine them all sat around in the Cabinet Room yesterday looking at each other and going "Oh Fucking Hell What Next?"
 
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