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Keir Starmer's time is up

From andysays link the video Starmer made for Pride during the pandemic.

Actually made me angry watching this. He comes across as so sincere. At end he makes two pledges if a Labour government comes in. Ban conversion therapy and bring in Self ID. No one forced him to make these promises.

The backtracking comes across to me as not sincere at all. Its been done just in case it becomes controversial at election time. The fudge he's made means he wont have to defend a policy of Self ID. But also make out he's more liberal than the Tories. I suppose his advisors reckon promising Self ID isnt worth the hassle of defending it at election time.

Worth watching as it shows Starmer up.


 
I actually posted this in not the best thread.


It's a pay as much as you want link to watch "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn".

Would be interesting to see the take on Starmer, the awful cunt.

People can do what they want to do, but I don’t imagine some conspiraloon programme will do much to dislodge starmer, or indeed to illicit sympathy for minorities who aren’t the target of this particular nonsense. If anything it has the opposite effect.
 
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People can do what they want to do, but I don’t imagine some conspiraloon programme will do much to dislodge starmer, or indeed to illicit sympathy for minorities who aren’t the target of this particular nonsense. If anything it has the opposite effect.

I haven't seen it. How much of it is conspiraloonery? We now know what Starmer and the right are capable of in ejecting socialists from the party. I've heard the film being called anti-Semitic by some, yet I also skim read a mostly positive view from a Jewish group. I'll watch it with an open mind at some point hopefully.
 
People can do what they want to do, but I don’t imagine some conspiraloon programme will do much to dislodge starmer, or indeed to illicit sympathy for minorities who aren’t the target of this particular nonsense. If anything it has the opposite effect.
I've seen the accusation of consipirloon - interested, what do you know of that? Also accusations of anti-semitism, although I've not seen anything specific there, either.
 
They're not conspiraloons (well, one or two might be), they just the bunch of tired old farts who haven't had an original thought in at least thirty years and still think it's 1974.
 
I saw the film The Big Lie recently in a packed church hall in Tavistock recently. I don't know if everything in it is spot on, but most of it is clearly pretty accurate. There was a conspiracy against Corbyn, much of it out in the open, some of it undercover. And a media against him from the outset. Israeli involvement probably. Why should anyone be surprised by all this? And why should Starmer want to prevent anyone seeing the film? I can't imagine why.
 
On Corbyn.

Lesson I learned from that is that anyone on the Social Democratic left is going to get a hard time. Same thing happened in Spain with Pablo Iglesias.

Its not political disagreement its that left social democrats get treated as not legitimate part of a democratic society.

Enough Spanish people rejected that view to halt it for now in their country . Remains to be seen if it happens here.

If you are not a considered a safe establishment politician then you get full on attack.

It wears people down to point they go.

Ive a lot of respect for Corbyn for keeping going.

Same with Jamie Driscoll. Behaved with a lot of dignity in face of way hes been treated by right of party for talking to Ken Loach.

Starmer , however , can lie again and again, and thats fine. In fact some on left cheer him on.
 
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At a meeting of the ruling National Executive Committee this week, it was revealed the party now has 385,324 fully paid-up members, with another 13,871 in arrears.

At the last NEC in June, it was reported that membership stood at 395,811 with 17,223 in arrears.

It marks a major decrease from the approximately 415,000 activists in July last year and a significant fall from the peak of 546,443 at the end of 2017, when Jeremy Corbyn was still leader.

Eta: Cutting down the membership to make the party slimmer and more efficient while getting rid of all the anti-semites :thumbs:
 
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