Keir Starmer's time is up

[Plumdaff]

If it's anything like the EHRC report what it actually says, how it's reported, and how the Labour leadership responds to it and continues to act could all bear absolutely no relationship to one another.

 

[DotCommunist]

the original spoke for itself tbf. I remember thinking 'this can't be real, the people in it will come out swinging with denials' and then they lawyered up and have since tried very very hard to find out who leaked it so they can lawfare the shit out of them.

 

[killer b]

If it's anything like the EHRC report what it actually says, how it's reported, and how the Labour leadership responds to it and continues to act could all bear absolutely no relationship to one another.

I'm not anticipating there to be very much reporting about what it says at all.

 

[andysays]

Anti-Semitism used as factional weapon within Labour, says report​

Labour's left and right wings both treated the issue of anti-Semitism as a "factional weapon" when Jeremy Corbyn was leader, a report says. Martin Forde QC's inquiry finds general "toxicity" existed between Mr Corbyn's office and staff at party HQ. And he says the opposing groups used the issue of anti-Semitism as a weapon during their arguments, rather than confront the issue.

 

[TopCat]

The original report was leaked. Has anyone got a copy? Will throw baubles etc

 

[Knotted]

Anti-semitism surely still exists in the Labour Party and this was a serious faux pas by Starmer that smacks of insensitivity and even complacency on the issue now it's served it's factional purpose. CAA have a point.

 

[hitmouse]

Anti-Semitism used as factional weapon within Labour, says report​

Any idea when the Pope Catholicism report is out?

 

[Leighsw2]

Love how an enquiry into racism, sexism and bullying in Labour (following the 'Labour Leaks' report) has strangely morphed into a 'report about factionalism' according to the MSM. So apparently they're all as bad as each other! Who knew? Interesting to discover that, if you react to someone calling you an anti-semite on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatsoever, that also means you're 'weaponising' the issue. 'Bothside-ism' - a wonderful way to create moral equivalence between the bullies and their victims.

Also reassuring to find out - via 'Labour sources' - there was absolutely no 'conspiracy' to lose the 2017 General Election by the Labour bureaucracy. Even though the report tells us they set up a secret parallel election campaign that spent £135,000 of the Party's money propping up right-wing candidates in safe seats (while winnable marginals were starved of cash).

Isn't the Labour Party marvellous?

 

[Raheem]

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(think I misunderstood)

 

[chainsawjob]

 

[tommers]

The original report was leaked. Has anyone got a copy? Will throw baubles etc

I've got the Forde report if that's the one you mean.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The reporting is very much along the lines of, 'both as bad as each other' but surely only one side actively sabotaged the party's chances at an election?

E2a: The report itself whinges about the racist bullying twats who had their whatsapp messages leaked not being given 'right of reply'.

 

[steeplejack]

Starmer staggeringly shit at Johnson's last PMQs today. A mortally wounded opponent and most of the MPs ended up laughing at him. Enabled Johnson to go back to genial chat show host making Starmer looking like a humourless parson at a children's party.

Being attacked by Starmer is like being savaged by an out of date celery. Genuine head in hands stuff.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Statement from the Great Boss Man:

The Forde Report casts an important light on events in the Labour Party in recent years. My election as leader in 2015 was a major shock in British politics. It wasn’t about me, but a popular demand for anti-austerity politics following the 2008 financial crisis and 35 years of market fundamentalism.

Despite overwhelming support from members and affiliates, powerful groups in the party found that change hard to come to terms with. This led to a conflict in Labour that created a toxic environment, which the Forde Report lays bare. In any party there are groups and factions, but the resistance we were faced with went far beyond that.
It included the secret diversion of campaign funds by senior HQ staff in the 2017 election, which Forde rightly condemns as “unequivocally wrong”. Whether or not that prevented the election of a Labour government, it was dishonest. In a democratic party those decisions should be taken by the elected leadership. Too often the will of the membership was overridden by people who thought they shouldn’t have had a say in the first place.

Whatever arguments there are about specific findings, this report should help us see a path forward. The politics of the many, not the few, are more needed in this country than ever. We suffer a cost of living scandal while billionaire wealth soars and climate breakdown accelerates while fossil fuel companies boast record profits. For the Labour Party to be the vehicle for a better and sustainable world, things need to change.

The appalling behaviour that Forde calls out, including the repulsive racism and sexism shown to Diane Abbott and others, should have no place in a progressive party. Toxic factionalism is far from over - nor are persistent problems of racism and sexism - and action must be taken, as Forde makes clear.

Most of all, the Party needs to decide what it is for and who decides that. Are we a democratic socialist party, run by members and affiliated unions, that aims for a fundamental transfer of wealth and power from the few to the many? Or are we something else?

 

[Thaw]

Did The Great Boss Man give a reason for not being interviewed?

 

[Calamity1971]

This will go well.

Exclusive: S*n columnist Starmer making ‘secret’ visit to Liverpool on Monday morning

Visit cloaked in secrecy after ‘Labour’ leader wrote for hated Murdoch rag and said he’d do it again Keir Starmer’s team has circulated a note to staff and journalists to no…

skwawkbox.org

 

[Calamity1971]

This will go well.

Exclusive: S*n columnist Starmer making ‘secret’ visit to Liverpool on Monday morning

Visit cloaked in secrecy after ‘Labour’ leader wrote for hated Murdoch rag and said he’d do it again Keir Starmer’s team has circulated a note to staff and journalists to no…

skwawkbox.org

He's speaking here, the irony.

 

[emanymton]

He's speaking here, the irony.
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Wow that is an ugly building.

 

[steeplejack]

sorry but

 

[nino_savatte]

Starmer's big idea is "Buy British", which if memory serves, was Harold Wilson's idea back in 1968-1969. It was a flop then and it's likely to go down like a bucket of cold sick now.

Labour will not nationalise rail, water or energy, Rachel Reeves says

Shadow chancellor says policies do not fit within her plans to restrict public spending

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Chilli.s]

Starmer's big idea is "Buy British", which if memory serves, was Harold Wilson's idea back in 1968-1969. It was a flop then and it's likely to go down like a bucket of cold sick now.

Labour will not nationalise rail, water or energy, Rachel Reeves says

Shadow chancellor says policies do not fit within her plans to restrict public spending

www.independent.co.uk

Re-nationalising would make everyone "buy british" but would perhaps considerably curtail the kind of advisory roles that politicians like to have working for big money and minimal hours after they are done with public service

 

[Pickman's model]

Starmer's big idea is "Buy British", which if memory serves, was Harold Wilson's idea back in 1968-1969. It was a flop then and it's likely to go down like a bucket of cold sick now.

Labour will not nationalise rail, water or energy, Rachel Reeves says

Shadow chancellor says policies do not fit within her plans to restrict public spending

www.independent.co.uk

I wonder who'll replace sir bruce forsyth on the re-release of 'I'm backing Britain'

 

[ska invita]

Support British Capitalists! Trickle Down Begins At Home! Boycott Foreign Electricity!

 

[The39thStep]

Starmer's big idea is "Buy British", which if memory serves, was Harold Wilson's idea back in 1968-1969. It was a flop then and it's likely to go down like a bucket of cold sick now.

Labour will not nationalise rail, water or energy, Rachel Reeves says

Shadow chancellor says policies do not fit within her plans to restrict public spending

www.independent.co.uk

Wilson tried to jump on the ' I'm backing Britain ' campaign which originally was about people volunteering for unpaid overtime.

 

[two sheds]

"Will focus on economic growth" = "won't be too fussed about doing something about conditions for the poorest" thank god for trickle down eh.

 

[Pickman's model]

"Will focus on economic growth" = "won't be too fussed about doing something about conditions for the poorest" thank god for trickle down eh.

Worse than that, focusing on economic growth = doing fuck all for the climate as well

 

[philosophical]

‘I’m backing Britain’ was started organically by some office workers I believe, who decided to work an extra hour a day for free.
It was a short lived craze, certainly exploited by politicians and business.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Worse than that, focusing on economic growth = doing fuck all for the climate as well

Indeed. My jaw dropped when I read that. He just doesn't get it, does he?

 

[TopCat]

Interest rates are on the up and will continue to climb for some years. This is designed to choke growth. Not sure how much Kier has thought this through.

 

[Pickman's model]

Interest rates are on the up and will continue to climb for some years. This is designed to choke growth. Not sure how much Kier has thought this through.

shammer doesn't do thought or he'd be making a better fist of being leader.