Keir Starmer's time is up

[Smokeandsteam]

From McDonnell’s economic advisor.

As Meadway make clear the programme that Starmer has set out would be a significant change to British economic policy since Thatcher and a more economically interventionist and corporatist state would be the result. This is important.

However, even if enacted, the strategy doesn’t address how the cost of living crisis would be ameliorated by a Labour Government. The back sliding on public ownership of key services and utilities is - even on public opinion terms - bafflingly stupid - and what is really lacking is a genuine plan to redistribute wealth from the 1%.

 

[two sheds]

Well he lied to persuade Labour members to become Labour leader, no reason to trust anything he says to persuade people to become Prime Minister.

 

[Rob Ray]

Having read it, I think "the most substantive thing Starmer's said about the economy" is about as damning as faint praise gets. From what I can see the sum total is:

• I like growth and want to balance the budget (wow, such perspective, so unique)
• Climate Investment Pledge worth £28bn a year until 2030, of which £3bn will be for the steel industry
• We'll be doing some faffing about with public procurement which might divert more govt money to local firms
• Jim O’Neill (spelled wrong, former Tory Treasury minister) is gonna do a report for us on how to be nicer to big business
• Scrap business rates for "something fairer"
• We'll set up an "industrial strategy" quango

Absolutely pathetic.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

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[Pickman's model]

Having read it, I think "the most substantive thing Starmer's said about the economy" is about as damning as faint praise gets. From what I can see the sum total is:

• I like growth and want to balance the budget (wow, such perspective, so unique)
• Climate Investment Pledge worth £28bn a year until 2030, of which £3bn will be for the steel industry
• We'll be doing some faffing about with public procurement which might divert more govt money to local firms
• Jim O’Neill (spelled wrong, former Tory Treasury minister) is gonna do a report for us on how to be nicer to big business
• Scrap business rates for "something fairer"
• We'll set up an "industrial strategy" quango

Absolutely pathetic.

never mind being tory lite, shammer's just lite

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Fucking nailed it! Eternal glory to that woman!

 

[steveseagull]

That is Audrey White, who successfully sued the Jewish Chronicle for smearing her.

Anyway, nice to see his trip to Liverpool went as successfully as expected.

 

[steveseagull]

Good grief

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Why anyone gives a fuck about the capitalist, reformist, anti-working class labour party is totally beyond me. Resistance lol what a joke.

 

[SpookyFrank]

That is Audrey White, who successfully sued the Jewish Chronicle for smearing her.

Anyway, nice to see his trip to Liverpool went as successfully as expected.

That was a 10/10, could not possibly be better takedown of the worm Starmer. Only response he's got is to get his goons to take her away.

 

[planetgeli]

Bit ashamed I've never heard of her tbh. She has history. She even had a film made about her with Glenda Jackson playing her.

Business as Usual (film) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[two sheds]

That was a 10/10, could not possibly be better takedown of the worm Starmer. Only response he's gotmis to get his goons to take her away.

Yes I was waiting for his reply forensically showing her where she was going wrong.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

The worst thing that could have happened to Corbyn and his cronies would have been getting into power and being revealed for the bourgeois, anti-working class scum that they all are.

 

[planetgeli]

The worst thing that could have happened to Corbyn and his cronies would have been getting into power and being revealed to be the bourgeois, anti-working class scum that they all are.

I hope you never go grey AmateurAgitator. It'll really confuse you.

 

[steveseagull]

 

[NoXion]

The worst thing that could have happened to Corbyn and his cronies would have been getting into power and being revealed for the bourgeois, anti-working class scum that they all are.

Yeah, we get it. You're such a revolutionary.

 

[JimW]

Bit ashamed I've never heard of her tbh. She has history. She even had a film made about her with Glenda Jackson playing her.

Business as Usual (film) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This link off there is good: Audrey White - TUC 150 Stories

You can’t tell people who haven’t experienced solidarity what solidarity is like – it’s priceless.

 

[Rob Ray]

The worst thing that could have happened to Corbyn and his cronies would have been getting into power and being revealed for the bourgeois, anti-working class scum that they all are.

While I agree with the general sentiment that Corbyn's Labour would have been a mess in power, it's a bit of an overkill to label the entire phenomenon "bourgeois, anti-working class scum." An important distinction to draw is that someone like Corbyn, for example, genuinely does want the best, from his perspective, for working class people. He wastes a lot of time and energy because his analysis is flawed, assuming that the State's power can be repurposed to aid the working class without needing to build independent working class power when, as has now again been demonstrated for our modern context, it can't be. But that doesn't mean he's hateful.

There's lots of scumbags in Labour, no doubt, but there's also very well-meaning and decent folk, whose choices reflect where they feel they can make a difference. We gain little from sneering at them.

 

[Dystopiary]

Here he is pretending to denounce the Scum, pretending he cares.



Fuck Starmer, fuck the Labour Party.

 

[elbows]

‘I’m backing Britain’ was started organically by some office workers I believe, who decided to work an extra hour a day for free.
It was a short lived craze, certainly exploited by politicians and business.

Yes I've just been reading the wikipedia entry about it, which includes this bit, oops lol:

The campaign received official endorsement by the Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, but it found that being perceived as government-endorsed was a mixed blessing. The Union Flag logo encouraged by the campaign became highly visible on the high streets, and attempts were made to take over the campaign by Robert Maxwell, who wanted to change its focus into an appeal to 'Buy British', but the campaign's own T-shirts were made in Portugal. After a few months without any noticeable effect on individual companies or the economy generally, interest flagged amid much embarrassment about some of the ways in which the campaign had been pursued and supported.

It has come to be regarded as an iconic example of a failed attempt to transform British economic prospects.

Also features other amazing details such as:

On Monday 8 January, Pye Records issued a 45 rpm single of the song "I'm Backing Britain" supporting the campaign. Written by Tony Hatch and Jackie Trent, and sung by Bruce Forsyth, the chorus included "The feeling is growing, so let's keep it going, the good times are blowing our way". All involved in making the single took cuts in their fees or royalties so that the single sold for 5 shillings instead of the going rate of 7s 4+1⁄2d. Forsyth happily endorsed the campaign: "The country has always done its best when it is up against the wall. If everyone realises what we are up against we can get out of trouble easily."[30] However, the song did not make the charts;[31] it sold only 7319 copies.[32] Reviewing the single, Derek Johnson of the New Musical Express commented "If you fancy five bob's worth of propaganda, good luck to you.

I'm Backing Britain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rob Ray]

Before he was a national dance treasure Forsyth had a less salubrious line scabbing on Equity with fellow dickhead Norman Wisdom.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Most of the time discussing politics on Urban is a complete waste of time due to the fact that the politics of most of you on here is absolute dogshit. The majority of you are liberals or statists of one type or another meaning that you are really no different to conservatives and are reactionary in your own way - more so than you will ever realise. And alot of you are actually very narrow minded people who stubbornly insist on clinging on to failed politics that has achieved fuck all and that you should have moved on from to try alternatives. You've stuck with politics that has actually done much more harm than good and you keep going down a path that has repeatedly failed. But it doesn't really matter because you're just a tiny, irrelevant, small minded clique who have achieved fuck all and will continue to do just that. Too many of you are blinkered, pompus people who think you know it all and most of the time discussing politics on here is completely pointless. Too many of you don't really want genuine social change.

 

[Pickman's model]

Before he was a national dance treasure Forsyth had a less salubrious line scabbing on Equity with fellow dickhead Norman Wisdom.

Surprised Norman Wisdom's popularity in Albania didn't suffer

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes I've just been reading the wikipedia entry about it, which includes this bit, oops lol:



Also features other amazing details such as:

I'm Backing Britain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm surprised the five or ten times I've posted that song have entirely passed you by

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Yeah, we get it. You're such a revolutionary.

Its not about me at all, although I am sick of this thoroughly fucking dire, barbaric system.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I hope you never go grey AmateurAgitator. It'll really confuse you.

I've already started to go grey but this is just stupid drivel anyway.

 

[krtek a houby]

Most of the time discussing politics on Urban is a complete waste of time due to the fact that the politics of most of you on here is absolute dogshit. The majority of you are liberals or statists of one type or another meaning that you are really no different to conservatives and are reactionary in your own way - more so than you will ever realise. And alot of you are actually very narrow minded people who stubbornly insist on clinging on to failed politics that has achieved fuck all and that you should have moved on from to try alternatives. You've stuck with politics that has actually done much more harm than good and you keep going down a path that has repeatedly failed. But it doesn't really matter because you're just a tiny, irrelevant, small minded clique who have achieved fuck all and will continue to do just that. Too many of you are blinkered, pompus people who think you know it all and most of the time discussing politics on here is completely pointless. Too many of you don't really want genuine social change.

Whoop whoop

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Whoop whoop

Yeah you're a knobhead, we know.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah you're a knobhead, we know.

And you're the only revolutionary in the village, etc

If the community fucks you off so much, perhaps take your ennui somewhere else?