Keir Starmer's time is up

[AnnO'Neemus]

Just looked at their website. Seems they’re offering flexible working and a £10/hr minimum wage, by 2030.

Perhaps by election time they’ll come up with a manifesto with some actual meaningful policies.

Total fucking idiots.

The Real Living Wage was most recently calculated to be £9.90 outside London and £11.05 in London.

So, in effect, a £10ph Living Wage by 2030 would be an actual pay cut for those in London and a real-terms pay cut for many elsewhere in the country.

They haven't got a fucking clue.

They're like my ostensibly lefty neighbour, from a middle class background now working as a university lecturer, but she thinks she's down with the kids because she lives on an inner city housing estate. When the pandemic was declared, I was working for a VCSE sector organisation that immediately switched gear and roped in community groups to mutual aid roles. So when I got home I suggested we prepare to use some of our estate's tenants and residents association funds for some food parcels for folks who couldn't get to the shops because they tested positive or because they were vulnerable. Lefty lecturer suggested that when she was going to do her wholefood shop she also place an order for a load more bags of dried fucking beans.

Clueless types like that are in charge now. Instead of let them eat cake, it's 'Let them eat mung beans.'

People who work/volunteer on the low pay/poverty frontline in food banks know that there are hungry people who (a) are too fucking hungry to wait for a pan of mung fucking beans to soak overnight and (b) then don't have enough credit in their prepayment meters to cook stuff, so the food banks have to prepare food parcels that require minimal or no cooking.

The problem is that too many in positions of power and policy-making in the Labour Party are those kinds of people, and their proposed solutions to problems just don't cut it. (See also: don't strike for better pay and conditions, don't support strikers, just roll over and accept being shit on from a great height.)

What is the real Living Wage?

www.livingwage.org.uk

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

This whole thing feels like a student union election at a uni where no one cares about the student union

Nailed it.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Yeah several mates of mine were nicked at the Ratcliffe thing

E2a: They didn't actually blockade anything. They were arrested the night before a planned action on a spycop tip off. There was also some gang violence in Nottingham that night, with one guy beaten half to death at a local nightclub by blokes welding champagne bottles. The perpetrators were not arrested, because every cell in a 30 mile radius was full of climate change protestors.

We might have some mutual friends.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[two sheds]

Err Corbyn in 2016 at least?

 

[Wilf]

Whereas he won't be attending Durham Miners (not invited iirc). Needless to say, Pride is good, but there's that shift towards getting onto the safe territory of diversity, while sprinting away from class and picket lines.

 

[muscovyduck]

Whereas he won't be attending Durham Miners (not invited iirc). Needless to say, Pride is good, but there's that shift towards getting onto the safe territory of diversity, while sprinting away from class and picket lines.

I mean, my homophobic mum went pride one year so

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Still a nob regardless.

 

[oryx]

Clueless types like that are in charge now. Instead of let them eat cake, it's 'Let them eat mung beans.'

See also: porridge.

 

[Pickman's model]

as a former resident of sir keithly shammer's constituency i can only say he makes camden ashamed. frank dobson was thrice the politician shammer will ever be.

 

[Pickman's model]

Err Corbyn in 2016 at least?

yeh Jeremy Corbyn tells Pride heckler 'I did all I could' to campaign against Brexit but now corbyn is a non-person nothing he did like that counts any more.

 

[Bingoman]

There is rumours doing the round on Twitter and also heard this on LBC last night that kier Starmer has been fined by Durham police and the police ask the eyewitness if they where willing to testify in court too?

Any truth to the rumours?

 

[TopCat]

There is rumours doing the round on Twitter and also heard this on LBC last night that kier Starmer has been fined by Durham police and the police ask the eyewitness if they where willing to testify in court too?

Any truth to the rumours?

It’s true there are rumours.

 

[killer b]

It seems unlikely that the first people to find out about this would be left wing shitposters on twitter tbh.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

There is rumours doing the round on Twitter and also heard this on LBC last night that kier Starmer has been fined by Durham police and the police ask the eyewitness if they where willing to testify in court too?

Any truth to the rumours?

Fingers crossed, eh?

 

[oryx]

There is rumours doing the round on Twitter and also heard this on LBC last night that kier Starmer has been fined by Durham police and the police ask the eyewitness if they where willing to testify in court too?

Any truth to the rumours?

Ha, was just coming on here to post that.

Hope it's true.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'd quite like shammer to stay, to utterly wreck the labour party

 

[steeplejack]

Shur Queef’s Union Jack bloomers are itching this morning!

I’ll never talk to the SNP, says Starmer. That’s morally dubious and tactically inept | Neal Lawson

Our times cry out for leaders willing to confront huge problems across the political divide, says Neal Lawson, director of the campaign group Compass

www.theguardian.com

 

[MickiQ]

He will never get to be PM then will he? Labour have no hope of getting an outright majority

 

[killer b]

It's just a ritual all modern Labour leaders have to undertake, saying they won't do deals with the SNP ahead of elections. Corbyn said the same, so did Miliband - it doesn't actually mean anything.

 

[PR1Berske]

It's just a ritual all modern Labour leaders have to undertake, saying they won't do deals with the SNP ahead of elections. Corbyn said the same, so did Miliband - it doesn't actually mean anything.

Echoes of the "will you ever enter coalition with the LDs" question leaders were always asked before 2010. It's a lazy question that can fill hundreds of comment pieces.

 

[TopCat]

Brexit: No case for UK returning to EU, Labour leader Starmer says

The Labour leader rules out a return to the EU, and is due to set out his plan to "make Brexit work".

www.bbc.co.uk

He makes a reference to wet wipe island. I think “Wet Wipe” is a pretty good moniker for himself.

 

[Spandex]

wet wipe island

What the fuck does that even mean?

Wet wipes are useful if you have young kids, pretty good at cleaning, bad at polluting - especially if you don't use biodegradable ones - and they block the loo if you flush them. Where's the political metaphor there?

Starmer's used it a couple of times recently, suggesting it's some kind of agreed political slogan that his communication team has sat around a table and come up with, one that he's really proud of and thinks conveys some kind of message that the electorate will seize on. But unless I'm missing something it's just a random word jumble. It's doesn't capture some deep feeling like Get Brexit Done. It doesn't make sense. It just makes him sound more of a prick than he already does.

 

[TopCat]

I would rather vote for the head of Turbo Island

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Ed Ballbags now a reactionary GMB host calling non-violent direct action over climate change 'terrorism'. He represents both Labour's past and its future under the revisionist Starmer clique. He symbolises the type of cadre who will thrive under the renegade Starmer's leadership

 

[killer b]

What the fuck does that even mean?

Wet wipes are useful if you have young kids, pretty good at cleaning, bad at polluting - especially if you don't use biodegradable ones - and they block the loo if you flush them. Where's the political metaphor there?

Starmer's used it a couple of times recently, suggesting it's some kind of agreed political slogan that his communication team has sat around a table and come up with, one that he's really proud of and thinks conveys some kind of message that the electorate will seize on. But unless I'm missing something it's just a random word jumble. It's doesn't capture some deep feeling like Get Brexit Done. It doesn't make sense. It just makes him sound more of a prick than he already does.

it's pretty clear in context what the metaphor is isn't it? From the article:

He will liken the economic effect of Brexit to the "wet wipe island" blocking the river Thames, adding: "It is hampering the flow of British business — we will break that barrier down."

 

[NoXion]

What the fuck does that even mean?

Wet wipes are useful if you have young kids, pretty good at cleaning, bad at polluting - especially if you don't use biodegradable ones - and they block the loo if you flush them. Where's the political metaphor there?

Starmer's used it a couple of times recently, suggesting it's some kind of agreed political slogan that his communication team has sat around a table and come up with, one that he's really proud of and thinks conveys some kind of message that the electorate will seize on. But unless I'm missing something it's just a random word jumble. It's doesn't capture some deep feeling like Get Brexit Done. It doesn't make sense. It just makes him sound more of a prick than he already does.

It's a reference to this:

A huge mass of used wet wipes has formed an 'island' that has changed the course of England's second longest river, MP says

Thousands of discarded wipes flushed down toilets end up on the river Thames banks, forming a mass dubbed 'wet wipe island.'

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Sue]

it's pretty clear in context what the metaphor is isn't it? From the article:

He will liken the economic effect of Brexit to the "wet wipe island" blocking the river Thames, adding: "It is hampering the flow of British business — we will break that barrier down."

What a rubbish and clumsy metaphor it is though.

 

[Elpenor]

Is he not also conjuring up the “Boris Island” airport idea off the Kent coast that was floated for a while

 

[killer b]

What a rubbish and clumsy metaphor it is though.

yeah well. people love shit and clumsy metaphors, consider the enduring success of Matt, who is paid substantially more than the newspaper he creates creaking metaphors for's editor