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I bet some marketing twat at brewdog or similar is already creating a can of 'Beergate' as I type.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
TBH, I can't be bothered looking into who was there at this 'meal', but it was almost certainly low risk in terms of passing Covid on to people who were already in close contact with each other. In that sense I don't give a shit about it. Johnson's serial partying was significantly worse, absolutely. But as ever, Starmer knew this day was coming at some point and should hjave owned up long ago, made a fucking point of owning up, given all the details out. But no, another fucking omnishambles.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
A block of wood looks good compared to Johnson.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
'A light joyless ale'
strung out
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He did own up long ago didn't he? This was news fucking months ago and he addressed it then.
Keir Beer
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
He admitted he was there and it happened, but not that it was pre-planned. It's that bit that is the problem.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Still one which Starmer has consistently struggled to reach.
And TBH I really don't see that this is likely to change that - he will still look weak, inept etc whichever way Durham Police decide to go.
ruffneck23
front left
Ah can't find the rayner thing, sorry if peeps got excited but It could have been fake news. I'm going back to my pint anyways.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Couldn't she do the decent thing and quit now?
ruffneck23
front left
Thank you
How could the world continue functioning properly with BoJo Keir and leggy Rayner remaining in office? Obviously a major crisis is imminent. Woe betide anyone seeking to trivialise matters of such supreme importance.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Not sure I follow. There are definitely some contingencies here - for example, the cops will feel some heat now knowing that having been bounced by the Mail, the Tories and other media cunts into reopening the investigation the stakes have been somewhat raised - but I’m not sure what Starmer and Rayner should have done instead and why this course of action makes them look ‘weak’.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It’s also, isn’t it, what most normal people would do in the same circumstances or, at least, what their employer would force them to. Starmer and Rayner are useless but they are right on this.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The criticism of Starmer is now why not do this some days ago.
That's a struggle though, the too little too late attack, because though it might be too late for some, it isn't too little, Starmer is putting his money where his mouth is, this is something a lot of people can understand.
The utter bastards have been wrong footed, and they are in a zugzwang over this.
That's a struggle though, the too little too late attack, because though it might be too late for some, it isn't too little, Starmer is putting his money where his mouth is, this is something a lot of people can understand.
The utter bastards have been wrong footed, and they are in a zugzwang over this.
ruffneck23
front left
I'm not a starmer fan, but he may have played a blinder, if only the tories were honourable.
Or he may end up going over something way less than Johnson's done. Who's then left sitting pretty. Which would be hilarious tbh.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
there was no bar at No 10, hence the need for the wheelie case.
And by the time whoever succeeded him was in place, no-one would remember/care about the reason for his principled resignation.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
And by the time whoever succeeded him was in place, no-one would remember/care about the reason for his principled resignation.
Except Johnson is going nowhere, the Gray report hasn’t even been published and the Met are, supposedly, resuming the issuing of FPN to Downing Street types. Also, every matter could be weaponised now and made about Johnson’s (lack of) integrity and honesty. As I say all of that for the price of an exonerated or successor to Starmer seems fair enough to me
You're clearly a lot more optimistic about this than I am. Let's see what happens.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Labour/Starmer pretty confident they won't get an FPN from this:
www.theguardian.com
Why the fuck they didn't release this stuff a month ago I don't know. Would have given them the chance to go onto the attack with full force. As it is, they've produced the 'dossier', but are left semi-hanging on to hear what Durham cops say. It all feels a bit like a score draw out of the jaws of defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Labour says it can prove Starmer’s team worked past 1am on Beergate night
Exclusive: party to present dossier of evidence to police claiming curry and beers were part of working day
Why the fuck they didn't release this stuff a month ago I don't know. Would have given them the chance to go onto the attack with full force. As it is, they've produced the 'dossier', but are left semi-hanging on to hear what Durham cops say. It all feels a bit like a score draw out of the jaws of defeat out of the jaws of victory.
No one gave a shit about this story a month ago. It's only really taken root in the last week - imagine they thought responding to it a month ago when no one gave a shit would have just given it more legs
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The mail etc have been gnawing away at this for weeks, along with a number of tory MPs. A display of openness and straight - full - answers might have gone down rather well. It's not that people give a shit about the Starmer story, it just has the effect of blurring the edges of the johnson version. And people do, still, give a shit about that.
They don't give a shit though - look at the polling I posted: no one cares. The only reason it's being attended to now is because they can't get anything else done because the journalists wont let them talk about anything else. Its totally a press thing though, the public aren't interested.
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