TopCat
Putin fanboy
Infelicities?
hehehe. Made me chuckle. Xx
Keir Starmer's time is up
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hehehe. Made me chuckle. Xx
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
If he's as unknown and unliked as it appears, a general audience isn't going to be convinced by a fly on the wall documentary. He won't pass the "Gogglebox test" for sure.
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Fair point, though we know what those centrist open meetings or rallies 'that anyone can rock up to' look like:
(Anyone remember Owen Smith's notorious 'ice-cream rally' in Liverpool during his failed leadership bid in 2016?)
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Ah, you beat me to it!
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Not quite up there with the mighty Argh! launch though. That one still makes me laugh.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Instrumentality underpins everything. Every. Thing.4. instrumentality
you forgot that
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It'll be like tiger king only weirder
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
do they have any idea how fucking pathetic they are? It absolutely is the same shit the same people served up with owen smith and aarggh eagle . And who came up with the Ed Stone and the CHUCK fucks. What is wrong with them? How many times do you have to pull the same lever resulting in a bucket of humiliation being pored over your head before you twig that it is not ever going to work?
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
They must have entire department working on humiliating naff and out of touch cringe ideas. Where do they get these people from?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Not to defend them but, even if they're geniuses, any proposal they make which fails to completely misdiagnose the problem is going to get spiked.
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Ah, Angela Eagle. Where is she now? Lest we forget....
Launching a leadership bid, or a perfume? Don't forget, these are the only people in the Labour Party who know how to win elections!
ska invita
back on the other side
#SmellTheEagle
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Have we had this yet?
www.independent.co.uk
‘It’s confidential’: Shadow minister refuses to say what Labour stands for
Jonathan Ashworth says discussions have taken place at shadow cabinet level but that they are ‘confidential’
www.independent.co.uk
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I saw the full clip and, tbf to the vacuous slime ball, he did go on to say that the LP were in favour of both motherhood and apple pie.Have we had this yet?
‘It’s confidential’: Shadow minister refuses to say what Labour stands for
Jonathan Ashworth says discussions have taken place at shadow cabinet level but that they are ‘confidential’
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
Diane Abbott sticking the boot into Keith's twitching festering political corpse.
Seems the SCG are rallying behind Andy Burnham. Keith and Evans have ripped the rule book up so I don't think it matters whether he is an MP or not.
I guess Burnham would be a load better than the current bunch of amateur halfwits but I am not sure he is the answer.
www.theguardian.com
Seems the SCG are rallying behind Andy Burnham. Keith and Evans have ripped the rule book up so I don't think it matters whether he is an MP or not.
I guess Burnham would be a load better than the current bunch of amateur halfwits but I am not sure he is the answer.
Andy Burnham: unlikely heir to the left's leadership ambitions? | Diane Abbott
Greater Manchester’s mayor has come a long way from his past as an identikit New Labour apparatchik, says Labour MP Diane Abbott
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Even stronger language elsewhere:
Losing byelection would be ‘curtains’ for Keir Starmer, says Diane Abbott
Labour left wing would back leadership run by Andy Burnham if party loses Batley and Spen, Corbyn ally says
www.theguardian.com
Losing byelection would be ‘curtains’ for Keir Starmer, says Diane Abbott
Labour left wing would back leadership run by Andy Burnham if party loses Batley and Spen, Corbyn ally says
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
There's also the problem of they kind of need Starmer's support as well to even get to that stage. I imagine some going into Starmer and saying "Sorry mate, nothing personal but we've decided you're useless and want to get Andy back into Parliament so he can replace you"
I can't imagine him or his supporters being enthusiastic about that as an idea.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
If he can go low enough in the polls - and I think he's perfectly capable of it - he may be convinced to do it. SKS is clearly not in control.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Can't remember who exactly, but there have been occasions where elderly MPs have agreed to give up their seats for a move to the house of lords trough (perhaps Tories?). Looks like Burnham very much wants to be leader, but it's not clear what the ideal route for him is. If Labour lose Batley and Spen - which I'm not convinced they will - it gets pretty close to a 'get Burnham at all costs' scenario I'd have thought. I mean from Labour's point of view, not mine. 
Hard to tell how Burnham would be as leader. He'd have a fair wind behind him in the party and he'd probably perform well against Johnson. A lot less dull then kieth, but that's not saying much at all. Politically, a return to something like an Ed Miliband position on some mythical left-right Labour continuum. But exciting? New ideas? Nope, not at all. Labour need to get rid of kieth, he looks like clubbed seal at the moment (and the boring clubbed seal that nobody cares about because he's boring). But Burnham ain't the answer, Labour's problems run a lot deeper.
Hard to tell how Burnham would be as leader. He'd have a fair wind behind him in the party and he'd probably perform well against Johnson. A lot less dull then kieth, but that's not saying much at all. Politically, a return to something like an Ed Miliband position on some mythical left-right Labour continuum. But exciting? New ideas? Nope, not at all. Labour need to get rid of kieth, he looks like clubbed seal at the moment (and the boring clubbed seal that nobody cares about because he's boring). But Burnham ain't the answer, Labour's problems run a lot deeper.
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elbows
Well-Known Member
Are parties even that sincere in their quest to find a winning candidate if they still think they are in the middle of their wilderness years? Or perhaps more to the point, dont future candidates have a close eye on that sort of timing and prefer to wait until the opportunities seem more likely to result in victory?
Is his mayoral term 3 years? And will his original timing calculations already have been affected by the extra years delay to the mayoral election cycle caused by the pandemic?
Is his mayoral term 3 years? And will his original timing calculations already have been affected by the extra years delay to the mayoral election cycle caused by the pandemic?
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Burnham is not well liked by party apparatchiks or the right of the party by all accounts so I doubt they're going to create an easy smooth route for him back to Westminster, when they can instead fantasise about Yvette or Rachel Reeves etc.
mauvais
on reddit or something
It's been said before but Burnham wasn't very good at politicking the first time around, that's why he lost. I think he probably has got a lot better at it since becoming GM Mayor but equally the King of the North bit is not obviously transferable to, well, anywhere that isn't the north. It's much easier to fight that particular corner than it is to lead the whole party.
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