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We all know what happened to Robb stark, the king in the north.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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his politics aside (which i gather are shit) he's also just a bit...miserable
heres one of him smiling
i dont mind that if its matched with a serious attitude to get some real shit done, but I gather thats not really him either
seems like replacing one mopey middle manager facing a midlife crisis with another
heres one of him smiling
i dont mind that if its matched with a serious attitude to get some real shit done, but I gather thats not really him either
seems like replacing one mopey middle manager facing a midlife crisis with another
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Kieth's got that look of shitting desperation in his eyes every time he's asked a question. Suspect Burnham wouldn't be quite as desperate, but those are the fine margins that Labour might well be looking for. Even a week ago I'd have said there was no possibility starmer will be replaced before the 2024 defeat, largely because parties normally let them go through the full cycle of false optimism through to defeat. But the way he's looked in a couple of interviews, well, he actually looks pathetic. I've no idea how and when he goes and he may last till 2024, but I'm guessing this year's conference will be interesting.
Puddy_Tat
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hmm.
"vote labour, slightly less shit than the tories"
"vote for burnham, slightly less shit than starmer"
(not that i'm suggesting that's what you're advocating. just meh at the options)
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
This shit is pathetic. It’s not a beauty contest. Selective photos of politicians looking glum. Cmon
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Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Manchester, so much to answer for.his politics aside (which i gather are shit) he's also just a bit...miserable
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heres one of him smiling
i dont mind that if its matched with a serious attitude to get some real shit done, but I gather thats not really him either
seems like replacing one mopey middle manager facing a midlife crisis with another
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
his politics aside (which i gather are shit) he's also just a bit...miserable
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heres one of him smiling
i dont mind that if its matched with a serious attitude to get some real shit done, but I gather thats not really him either
seems like replacing one mopey middle manager facing a midlife crisis with another
tbf to burnham he does recognise that one of starmers failings is to not prioritise social care
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
This makes sense to me.
“Start with social care, a commitment to provide it on NHS terms and with pay parity for the care workforce with NHS staff. This brings me to a point about Labour’s approach to identity politics. I think we can do more to advance fair pay for women with a unifying message about social care wages than by talking about women’s pay in abstract and leaving low-paid men feeling no one speaks for them.”
“Start with social care, a commitment to provide it on NHS terms and with pay parity for the care workforce with NHS staff. This brings me to a point about Labour’s approach to identity politics. I think we can do more to advance fair pay for women with a unifying message about social care wages than by talking about women’s pay in abstract and leaving low-paid men feeling no one speaks for them.”
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
no name change, but she hasn't posted in a year. dunno why she can't be tagged though
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Starry Wisdom
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
He'd need at least that if he became PM, what with redecorating no 10, replacing all the wallpaper, carpets and furniture.
Definitely think they should go for the guy who approved torture flights
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PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Can't remember who exactly, but there have been occasions where elderly MPs have agreed to give up their seats for a move to the house of lords trough (perhaps Tories?). Looks like Burnham very much wants to be leader, but it's not clear what the ideal route for him is. If Labour lose Batley and Spen - which I'm not convinced they will - it gets pretty close to a 'get Burnham at all costs' scenario I'd have thought. I mean from Labour's point of view, not mine.
Hard to tell how Burnham would be as leader. He'd have a fair wind behind him in the party and he'd probably perform well against Johnson. A lot less dull then kieth, but that's not saying much at all. Politically, a return to something like an Ed Miliband position on some mythical left-right Labour continuum. But exciting? New ideas? Nope, not at all. Labour need to get rid of kieth, he looks like clubbed seal at the moment (and the boring clubbed seal that nobody cares about because he's boring). But Burnham ain't the answer, Labour's problems run a lot deeper.
In politics, "he who wields the sword rarely wears the crown".
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Blair actually won Sedgefield for the first time in 1983 (as did Corbyn) the same year as the Labour Party also got a massive arse kicking. There were 26 new Labour MP's elected in 2019 so the way things are going it wouldn't surprise me if history isn't repeating itself and the next Labour PM is one of them.
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I think this is that list of 26 with short bio
Labour gained just one seat - but many more fresh faces - LabourList
Labour gained just one seat at the 2019 general election – Putney, in London – but we can…
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Any other option would be an extraordinary rendition
Humberto
anthropocene participant
I think they are all much the same in that regard once they get into No.10/the Cabinet. Torture is dreadful, so is war itself, as well as homelessness, poverty etc but people still vote for the fuckers. I'm not saying that point should be glossed over, I honestly don't know the ins and outs of it, but the party doesn't seem to have a lot of options. In terms of Labour's future, I worry about a tipping point where we are stuck with the Tories for at least another generation. David Milliband could be the guy to get the party's house in order, win back lost votes and take it from there. Is he my hero? No! But this current lot in government seem to have given up any pretence that they honour the office that they were elected to, and the lines between selfish business interests and their elected office are murky and blurred indeed. Meanwhile Labour have lost the plot, and offer nothing really. Whether Milliband would be interested in getting involved again I don't know. Speculation and reckons isn't it?
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