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Keir Starmer's time is up

I genuinely can't even see a scintilla of logic in this sacking, other than trying to blame someone not called kieth. Can anybody even guess what it is he is trying to signal and to who???
There's the old saying 'never let a good crisis go to waste' - using the opportunity to do what he wanted to do all along, demote Rayner and Nandy etc - but misjudged the reaction. But unless all these angry MPs actually do something about it within the week he will get his way and the right will steer the party further into the mire.
 
I genuinely can't even see a scintilla of logic in this sacking, other than trying to blame someone not called kieth. Can anybody even guess what it is he is trying to signal and to who???

It could be that he really doesn't rate her - I don't - and thought that today's tidal wave of shit was a good opportunity to throw out the trash. A burying bad news type thing.

Understandable perhaps, but if he thought this would just quietly slip out without the CLP/LP noticing then he's just fucking spectacular...
 
but she was potential leadership candidate last time - and could well have won. Shes popular. Shes a working class women (teenage mum who with alcoholic mother who left school with no exams) who talks like an actual real person and with a sharp wit. Surely exactly what labour need if they want to "reconnect" with the trad labour voters - and take on someone like johnson. I wonder if this may have actually played a part in his thinking "she makes me look bad in comparison .." a bit like when blair knifed mo mowlan ..
I wonder what would happen if she resigned as deputy in order to challenge for the leadership.
 
I don't know Knowsley so well, but I know Preston and Salford and they both have 'metropolitan' stuff going on - large universities, thriving liberal arts scenes, hipster coffee joints and the like. Salford has the BBC based there, Preston is the administrative capital of Lancashire...
Would be very interested to see a proper analysis of the "Salford socialism" model, I find myself suspecting that Dennettism isn't all it's cracked up to be but can't claim to be a big expert on the subject beyond reading various Salford Star articles, and following the long-running Grenfell-style cladding thing a bit.
I genuinely can't even see a scintilla of logic in this sacking, other than trying to blame someone not called kieth. Can anybody even guess what it is he is trying to signal and to who???
Doesn't Rayner share a flat with Long-Bailey? Clearly a Corbynite snake-in-the-grass fifth columnist sabotaging our hero's efforts to win back Hartlepool with her Stalino-Trotskyite ways. Probably has her orders beamed straight in from an Islington allotment.
 
Don't know anything about Sarah Jones, but it's a big thumbs down from me for the rest of the rumoured promotions.
Mate of mine campaigned for Jones in Croydon Central in December 19 and when I next saw him said he’d been on a board with Starmer who had popped along to support Jones’ re-election.

On friendly terms that far back.
 
I genuinely can't even see a scintilla of logic in this sacking, other than trying to blame someone not called kieth. Can anybody even guess what it is he is trying to signal and to who???

I’m afraid it all seems rather staged. Streeting tonight at pains to point out that today’s results change nothing. Highly disrespectful to those who worked for Labour’s local gains.

It also suggests that the decision had been made and the promise that lessons would be learned carefully was simply untrue.

However it’s one thing to rout opponents with the wind behind you like New Labour did, but this clique has none of that. This is going to be a bloody farce. I wish they would fuck off and form another shit centre party.
 
I can't see him going unless pushed - if he does he'll be seen as a total failure and I'm sure he feels his magnetic personality and drive can turn it all around.
 
Lol if true



Steve Reed. He was the leader of Lambeth Council who brought Blairism to my patch. Corbyn gave him post. He has been on radio few days back saying the Labour Party is not aspirational enough.

He tried to become MP in Streatham. Membership weren't having an arch Blairite as candidate and went for Chuka. Who at that time presented himself as Compass supporting soft left.

Steve Reed Big idea in Lambeth was the Coop Council. The post war welfare state had led to culture of dependency. The local government had to change from being a provider to being an enabler. In effect this was little different from Cameron big society. Steve Reed always denied it was about cutting services. He said it was about the Labour Party going back to its roots of self help and not relying on "welfare".

To add I think his view of this is quite right wing.
 
Even if I was a fanatical blairite I'd be able to see that Starmer is useless. And he's got plenty of shit on him that could easily be dug up if he gets anywhere near a GE campaign. And just think, what we're seeing now is how well he does when he's getting an easy ride from the press and the tories.
 
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I know we're all keenly looking forward to Starmer having a bucket of holy water thrown over him, so that he meets his demise shouting "melting., I'm meeeelllllltttttingggg" but I've just seen a tweet (which it would be tiresome to post) saying that this is the beginning of a full-on right-wing coup in the party, through which the last vestiges of Corbynism will be eradicated. . . .
 
Even if I was a fanatical blairite I'd be able to see that Starmer is useless. And he's got plenty of shit on him that could easily be dug up if he gets anywhere near a GE campaign. And just think, what we're seeing now is how well he does when he's getting any easy ride from the press and the tories.
It says a lot about Blairism that it couldn't produce a successor generation for its project, at least not one that wasn't utterly useless in every respect.
 
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