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Keir Starmer's time is up

It says a lot about Blairism that it couldn't produce a successor generation for its project, at least not one that wasn't utterly useless in every respect.

Not really surprising that a managerialist ideology produced only middle managers.

Credit where it's due though, those middle managers are both legion and impossible to get rid of. Political cockroaches, basically. Only without the politics.
 
Steve Reed. He was the leader of Lambeth Council who brought Blairism to my patch. Corbyn gave him post. He has been on radio few days back saying the Labour Party is not aspirational enough.

He tried to become MP in Streatham. Membership weren't having an arch Blairite as candidate and went for Chuka. Who at that time presented himself as Compass supporting soft left.

Steve Reed Big idea in Lambeth was the Coop Council. The post war welfare state had led to culture of dependency. The local government had to change from being a provider to being an enabler. In effect this was little different from Cameron big society. Steve Reed always denied it was about cutting services. He said it was about the Labour Party going back to its roots of self help and not relying on "welfare".

To add I think his view of this is quite right wing.
I remember going to the Atlantic Bar and Grill after the protests against Lambeth's first austerity budget and witnessing Reed and other councillors doing a fucking conga (I swear) celebrating having got it passed. Man's a total technocrat wanker.
 
I know we're all keenly looking forward to Starmer having a bucket of holy water thrown over him, so that he meets his demise shouting "melting., I'm meeeelllllltttttingggg" but I've just seen a tweet (which it would be tiresome to post) saying that this is the beginning of a full-on right-wing coup in the party, through which the last vestiges of Corbynism will be eradicated. . . .

but how much support will this get from the membership, the unions and the plp? - as someone said above, easier to knife your enemies if you are in a position of strength - but starmer is weak and flailing around - and you'd have to be pretty delusional that labours disastrous performance were somehow due to corbyn (especially when you look at where labour did ok) - and not a failing of the party leader. and sacking raynor is a hugely inflammatory move and further complicated by the fact she is still deputy leader. Politically its utterly incoherent. Either the old bairites (isnt Mandelson back in the building, sliming around?) have totally lost touch with reality (not impossible) or Starmer had a barney with Raynor and lost his shit.
 
I think her sacking relates to being Campaign co-ordinator which regardless of the leadership she did a pretty shite job. SKS has been a bit hasty over this & maybe has not considered alienating his deputy within a day of the poor showing which according to C4 polls was because of his leadership.

Still time will tell & all that.
 
Could have at least waited until Conference in Brighton to sack Rayner - that would have turned it into an Ocean Cull Her Scene
Bernie Sanders approves.

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but how much support will this get from the membership, the unions and the plp? - as someone said above, easier to knife your enemies if you are in a position of strength - but starmer is weak and flailing around - and you'd have to be pretty delusional that labours disastrous performance were somehow due to corbyn (especially when you look at where labour did ok) - and not a failing of the party leader. and sacking raynor is a hugely inflammatory move and further complicated by the fact she is still deputy leader. Politically its utterly incoherent. Either the old bairites (isnt Mandelson back in the building, sliming around?) have totally lost touch with reality (not impossible) or Starmer had a barney with Raynor and lost his shit.
Ever seen a muppet flail it's felt-covered limbs about?
 
Twitter seems to be convinced Starmer's.... close working relationship with Jenny Chapman and Rayner's criticism of her may be behind all of this, off the back of a deleted Tim Shipman (political editor of The Times) tweet. No idea if this is true or not but adds to general chaos.
 
Twitter seems to be convinced Starmer's.... close working relationship with Jenny Chapman and Raynor's criticism of her may be behind all of this, off the back of a deleted Tim Shipman (political editor of The Times) tweet. No idea if this is true or not but adds to general chaos.

And Mrs. Starmer has apparently banned Ms. Chapman from the Starmer family home. . .
 
Soros man

This is repeating far-right propaganda and conspiracy theories, it’s lazy and promoting hate.

Conflating valid criticisms of the crimes committed by the state of Israel with fascist bullshit pedalled on the Internet is an insult to the people who suffered in the Holocaust. It also provides a base for future atrocities.
 
Steve Reed. He was the leader of Lambeth Council who brought Blairism to my patch. Corbyn gave him post. He has been on radio few days back saying the Labour Party is not aspirational enough.

He tried to become MP in Streatham. Membership weren't having an arch Blairite as candidate and went for Chuka. Who at that time presented himself as Compass supporting soft left.

Steve Reed Big idea in Lambeth was the Coop Council. The post war welfare state had led to culture of dependency. The local government had to change from being a provider to being an enabler. In effect this was little different from Cameron big society. Steve Reed always denied it was about cutting services. He said it was about the Labour Party going back to its roots of self help and not relying on "welfare".

To add I think his view of this is quite right wing.
Originally it was going to be the 'John Lewis' council, but I think they went for 'cooperative' in the end as a bit more 'labour'. Have to say I don't think anyone ever understood what it actually meant!
 
Anyone who regularly reads NS articles will recognise how, by their usual polite centrist standards, utterly dismissive and scathing this is from Stephen Bush re: Kieth. Among the highlights...,not a serious figure’, ‘lacking in political judgement’, ‘a fucking joke’....

Any chance you could c&p this Smokeandsteam , NS paywall keeps kicking me out.
 
Any chance you could c&p this Smokeandsteam , NS paywall keeps kicking me out.

What is there to be said about Keir Starmer’s mystifyingly stupid, self-discrediting and self-destructive decision to sack Angela Rayner as Labour Party chair? Other than the obvious, which is that unless it emerges in relatively short order that Rayner has been quietly defrauding Labour Party funds or running an illicit drug ring, it is mystifyingly stupid, self-discrediting and self-destructive. (Though I suppose given that, we cannot rule out the possibility that someone close to the Labour leader is running an illicit drug ring.)

Bluntly, there is no intelligent analysis of the local elections that would pin the blame on Labour’s deputy leader. These are elections in which the incumbent governments in England, Scotland and Wales have all seen major gains: a picture that defies the idea that what we are seeing is either about a deep-rooted and enduring realignment of the so-called “Red Wall” behind the Conservative Party or that it is a particularly commentary on anything within the gift of Labour.

Indeed, a cool-headed Labour leader surely had a good counter-narrative to tell: that despite the most favourable backdrop imaginable for a governing party, his party had won the only open mayoral seat (the West of England) and continued its forward march in areas that are trending Labour. Add a note of genuine praise for some of the government’s achievements with something slightly radical – say, by praising the furlough scheme, noting that it had prevented a crash in incomes during the pandemic and proposing the introduction of a six-month furlough-style scheme for the newly unemployed in perpetuity – conduct a quiet reconstruction of parts of his office in reflection of the handful of things within Labour’s control that went wrong, and focus on the issues that will actually decide the next election: crime and climate change, say. The current political circumstances – the end of lockdown, and with it, booming consumer confidence and economic growth – are not going to last forever. Labour just needed to keep a cool head.

Instead, Starmer has decided to scapegoat – or, I think more accurately, try to scapegoat – Rayner. His deputy has privately defended the Labour leader from what she perceived to be unfair criticism, and taken considerable flank from her own allies on the party’s left. Now she has been rewarded with dismissal from the post of Labour Party chair.

The result will likely be both a deepening of Labour’s existing divides and an opening of new wounds, as many MPs who had, until now, regarded Starmer’s leadership as a positive are now left in a state of confusion and anger. (One representative reaction to me escalated from asking if I were joking to describing it as a “fucking joke”.) It must now surely mean that Starmer’s leadership is in considerable peril.

But the action is more troubling than that. To be blunt, if you think these election results were primarily in the control of anyone in the Westminster Labour party, you are not a serious figure, and your political judgement is highly suspect. The list of people to have revealed themselves to be part of that tendency now includes the party’s present leader. That is a far bigger problem than a series of bad election results in highly favourable circumstances for the Conservative government.
 
"Family has always been incredibly important to me..........and it means everything to me now that I have a loving family of my own."
If the rumour I've heard about Starmer from a (trustworthy - but i guess rumour spreading) person who is a regular member at Starmer's CLP, the "family man" angle might be one that comes back to bite him a la John Major and his Back to Basics family shtick.

:hmm:
 
I think her sacking relates to being Campaign co-ordinator which regardless of the leadership she did a pretty shite job. SKS has been a bit hasty over this & maybe has not considered alienating his deputy within a day of the poor showing which according to C4 polls was because of his leadership.

Still time will tell & all that.
Yeah, I mean the Liverpool mayoral selection was dreadful for a start and was reflected in the result. Not sure how much influence Rayner had in that but just one example
 
hehehe, tell me more.
Three candidates about to go forward to the local members for selection suddenly told that nominations were reopening and they weren't eligible to stand. No reasons given. Two new people shortlisted, one a very young councillor with little experience and the other a bankrupt. Bankrupt wins. Election sees Labour candidate win less than 50% (39% iirc) of the vote for the first time ever in a Liverpool mayoral election and squeeze past a well known indy candidate in the run off.

For comparison, Steve Rotheram won over 60% of the vote in Liverpool for the City Region Mayor contest.

Shambolic process that could have seen Labour lose in Liverpool. Which would have been, well, wow
 
Burnham has already tweeted that he he doesn't support Raynor's sacking...

I doubt it's rats leaving a sinking ship, but it certainly feels like ships in port discretely moving away from that bulk carrier filled with fertilizer that stinks of hot diesel...
 
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