Just Stop Oil

[cybershot]

Surprised no mention of this lot on here.

For about a week now they have been targeting the Oil depot by me and seems their intent is to cause fuel shortages across the country, so don't be surprised if panic buying starts again soon.

Whilst I get what they are trying to do, being on the other side of the fence feeling all the knock on effects it's causing ordinary people in our area, patience is wearing thin with protestors and the police. Not helped by the area already being affected by HS2 works causing disruption in the area.

 

[Petcha]

There's a couple of them currently on top of a tanker truck lorry holding up their 'just stop oil' banner. Unfortunately the tanker is carrying chemicals for food production from the netherlands, not oil..

 

[Supine]

Not seen this on the news but heard about it, word of mouth, as petrol has been hard to find in Kent since last week. Apparently so, i don’t drive so don’t care

 

[two sheds]

I went on TV to explain Just Stop Oil – and it became a parody of Don’t Look Up | Miranda Whelehan

I wanted to sound the alarm about oil exploration and the climate crisis, but Good Morning Britain just didn’t want to hear, says campaigner Miranda Whelehan

www.theguardian.com

didn't see the programme, but this is quite coherent from Just Stop Oil representative.

 

[Ax^]

it been happening for about 2 weeks as far as i remember

it will hit the headlines with about tommorow as people try to get away

idological fair play to them but timing has never been the high point of the campaign

 

[two sheds]

Yep seems a mistake to hit people just trying to get on with their lives. Better you'd think to go after the companies without causing people short-term problems so making themselves unpopular.

 

[Ax^]

disrupte the queen jubilee weekend as much as they feel

maybe leave the first really long bank holiday alone for reason of not being unpopular with the public
anyone who not a parent knows your getting rinsed for holiday cost already and in the current climate
let them be angry about the Tory party and don't give a distraction

but hey ho my 2 bits

 

[platinumsage]

“Just Stop Oil” … if only it was that simple

 

[Rob Ray]

LARC Social Centre raided in Just Stop Oil crackdown - Freedom News

Eleven people have been arrested in a midnight raid at London Action Resource Centre (LARC) in Whitechapel, for conspiracy to commit a public nuisance. According to one witness, more than 40 officers were involved in the action, which found nothing to confiscate. Five people have been released...

freedomnews.org.uk

 

[ska invita]

LARC Social Centre raided in Just Stop Oil crackdown - Freedom News

Eleven people have been arrested in a midnight raid at London Action Resource Centre (LARC) in Whitechapel, for conspiracy to commit a public nuisance. According to one witness, more than 40 officers were involved in the action, which found nothing to confiscate. Five people have been released...

freedomnews.org.uk

outrageous---pre=emptive arrests right?

“Just Stop Oil” … if only it was that simple

Its just stop new digs

 

[8ball]

Surprised no mention of this lot on here.

Think there's been some mention in the Extinction Rebellion thread.

 

[maomao]

Should be very popular round here. They're doing what everyone here said Insulate Britain should be doing.

 

[8ball]

Should be very popular round here. They're doing what everyone here said Insulate Britain should be doing.

They are Insulate Britain.

So I guess they listen, at least.

 

[Pickman's model]

They are Insulate Britain.

So I guess they listen, at least.

You said and we did

 

[Micky D]

Middle class kids on a jolly . If the working class lorry drivers sort them out its their own fault ...

 

[Rob Ray]

Some of them might be, others are not. The average salary for a tanker truck driver meanwhile is 32k-odd. Which is nearly spot-on median pay for the UK, putting them fairly solidly in the middle class income bracket.

Give yourself a ding round the ear for getting your opinions direct from the comments section of the right-wing press Micky.

 

[platinumsage]

The idea that a tanker driver is going to be middle class by virtue of their salary is pretty desperate though.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Would you lot be coming out with the same crap if transport workers were on strike?

 

[Rob Ray]

The idea that a tanker driver is going to be middle class by virtue of their salary is pretty desperate though.

Depends, are you arguing class as an identity or an economic position?

 

[8ball]

Depends, are you arguing class as an identity or an economic position?

<opens a pack of popcorn>

 

[Rob Ray]

Across the sands, upon the beach, a word of horror is whispered ... iiiidddpppppooollll

 

[Peter Painter]

I know someone who has been part of the Just Stop Oil protests. Before the action they didn't know where they would be protesting or what exactly they would be doing. Just told to get to a particular train station and await further instructions.

They ended up glued to the road outside some depot until eventually arrested before being released in the early hours of the morning (no surprise with that bit!).

The second protest was much the same except that this time the police changed tactics and let them stay glued to the road all through the night before arresting them. It was apparently very uncomfortable and very cold.

I think it was a good effort, I'm not sure I'd have been up for doing all that.

I get the criticism that this and ER are a bit 'middle class', and that their tactics sometimes disrupt the lives of normal working class folk, but even despite this I still support their cause.

My protesting friend is many things but middle class they most definitely are not!

 

[ska invita]

I get the criticism that this and ER are a bit 'middle class', and that their tactics sometimes disrupt the lives of normal working class folk, but even despite this I still support their cause.

Seems like a deliberate attempt by the right to create a class-culture division on the issue and nothing more than that.

 

[platinumsage]

Seems like a deliberate attempt by the right to create a class-culture division on the issue and nothing more than that.

It might seem like that but have you actually listened to any actual workers affected?

 

[platinumsage]

Would you lot be coming out with the same crap if transport workers were on strike?

Pretty sure many other unions commonly support transport strikes. Do you have a list of unions that have supported these protests?

 

[ska invita]

It might seem like that but have you actually listened to any actual workers affected?

yes and my opinion of extinction rebellion relies on the testimony of taxi drivers.
whats your point caller?

 

[ska invita]

Pretty sure many other unions commonly support transport strikes.

TRANSPORT STRIKES!!! HAve you actually listened to workers affected by a transport strike!!

 

[platinumsage]

whats your point caller?

That these protests aren't a working-class movement and the protestors have made no attempt whatsoever to connect with workers, so the protests won't be effective.

Surely the best way to "stop oil" is for the oil workers to come out on strike backed by a deep strike fund that these road-gluers have helped fill.

 

[Peter Painter]

Seems like a deliberate attempt by the right to create a class-culture division on the issue and nothing more than that.

Yes, quite probably. But possibly a relatively effective attempt as there is some truth in the criticisms.

I went to an XR meeting a few years back and felt a bit out of place. One of my mates was told we weren't the type of people they were looking for. I wasn't sure if we were too crusty or too anarcho. Possibly both!

I also think that sometimes their tactics seem short-sighted and counter productive; simultaneously alienating the people they should be trying to recruit (at least as supporters of their cause) and playing straight into the hands of their opponents.

 

[hitmouse]

Depends, are you arguing class as an identity or an economic position?

I'd say that both can be useful, but if I had to pick one definition, then I'd go with option c, social relationship. If you want to pull out some stats about how many truck drivers own their own trucks and go for an argument about means of production and petit-bourgeois artisans or something, then you can do that, but I still dunno if it'd be a very good use of a bank holiday afternoon. But wages are a pretty weak argument, unless you do the same thing with tube drivers?