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DrRingDing

DrRingDing

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I know of no decent news source. I've had a look at Feedly and picked out a few people to follow but it's pretty thread bare.

John Pilger

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DrRingDing said:
I know of no decent news source.
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Are news companies obligated to provide you with something you want to read?

Should the question not be "why do so few on the left produce readable and engaging news output?"

The "right" (i.e. everyone not on U75) has viable or semi viable business models. Why not you, why not provide what you want to read.
 
ferrelhadley said:
Are news companies obligated to provide you with something you want to read?

Should the question not be "why do so few on the left produce readable and engaging news output?"

The "right" (i.e. everyone not on U75) has viable or semi viable business models. Why not you, why not provide what you want to read.
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I agree most of what The Left produce is miserable. I'm no writer or investigator I've enjoyed writing reports for activities I've been involved in but i know my limits.
 
ferrelhadley said:
Are news companies obligated to provide you with something you want to read?

Should the question not be "why do so few on the left produce readable and engaging news output?"

The "right" (i.e. everyone not on U75) has viable or semi viable business models. Why not you, why not provide what you want to read.
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Isn't it weird how the vast majority of all forms of media are currently and have historically been right wing and pro status quo - in every single state. Almost as if wasn't quality of content that decided what is produced distributed and funded.
 
Most forms of media are owned or facilitated by the wealthy so it follows that they will be right leaning & pro status quo which provides the stability required for large companies to continue to make profit.
 
I suppose because well known journalists are well paid by national newspapers & the really good ones have various income streams making them by normal standards, very wealthy indeed it is difficult for them to have a genuinely left wing outlook. Poverty makes people angry. Comfortable wealth must make one complacent. The journalists that deserve the most respect imo are the ones who over the years have put themselves at serious risk of death reporting from war zones.
 
DrRingDing said:
I know of no decent news source. I've had a look at Feedly and picked out a few people to follow but it's pretty thread bare.

John Pilger

....next?
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I've got feedly. I've got some blogs in there that I like.

The thing is, though, that it's not so much what you read as how you read it. We all know the filters (well I thought we did by now), so it's about how we use what we're left with after it's been filtered.
 
SaskiaJayne said:
I suppose because well known journalists are well paid by national newspapers & the really good ones have various income streams making them by normal standards, very wealthy indeed it is difficult for them to have a genuinely left wing outlook.
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It's true that if you look at a paper like the Guardian, the norm for writers is a private school background. That, for them, is normality. This doesn't necessarily make them bad people, it's just that they start from a position that only 7% of the UK is in. What is interesting to them is not necessarily the life experience of the rest of us.

But there's a wider point than that. I've had stuff published, but usually by the more alternative end of the spectrum. I've learned not to bother punting stuff to the mainstream because I generally get a reply along the lines of "it's well written, but we can't really use this". Sometimes they'll add "have you got anything on this angle?". If they even reply. So anyone relying on this as their income will pretty quickly learn what can be used and what angle to start with. "Newsworthy" is just a code for self censorship. Of course people won't see it that way: they can't if they want to maintain self respect.
 
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Robert Fisk for Middle East stuff (correspondent for The Independant).
Matt Taibbi for American politics and the 2008 crash (Rolling Stone journo).
 
There's a bloke called Adam Minter used to do a blog called Shanghai Scrap (url was unintentionally amusing) who while standard liberal wrote well about less touted but important aspects of Chinese real economy
 
I've always enjoyed Jon Ronson's stuff (less so his radio and tv because I find his voice annoying). His book about conspiracy theories (Them) was interesting.
 
Bit like lawyers not really trustworthy unless your paying them I guess.:hmm:
None are completely honest having seen what was recordered and what actually appeared on TV and in a newspaper :facepalm::hmm:
 
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