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Jim Murphy is new Scottish Labour leader.

Although when people used to make jokes about kilts and fried mars bars etc maybe they were being serious rather than joking? A lot is disguised with 'banter'
If you watch a comedy programme like Have I Got News and Scots are mentioned, then the "joke" will always involve avoiding fruit and veg. "Scottish salad, that's chips isn't it?" That sort of thing. I'm sure it's hilarious, but it does pall after a while.
 
I just called...to say....fuck oooooff
To be more accurate, she was telling "the Scots" to fuck off, not Mrs LR, who identifies as English. The election came up in conversation, rather than being the purpose of the call (though, who knows, maybe she was itching to say it) and became heated on Sally's part. Mrs LR was amused but quite taken aback at how vitriolic her friend became.

As an aside, Mrs LR voted SNP, and had decided to long before I had.
 
To be more accurate, she was telling "the Scots" to fuck off, not Mrs LR, who identifies as English. The election came up in conversation, rather than being the purpose of the call (though, who knows, maybe she was itching to say it) and became heated on Sally's part. Mrs LR was amused but quite taken aback at how vitriolic her friend became.

As an aside, Mrs LR voted SNP, and had decided to long before I had.

I take it she didnt share this piece of info?
 
My personal view is that the anti-Scottish sentiment that has grown over the past four years is part of the wider trend of anti-'scrounger' rhetoric. People who would never dream of using a racial slur, though they may use PC language to say racist things, feel emboldened by the mainstream narrative to say bigoted things about the Scottish. They are unemployed, they don't talk proper English, they contribute nothing and most importantly they are mostly white. It's alright to dehumanise them just like it's alright to dehumanise Northerners, Scousers and 'Chavs' in general.
Further to this, John Harris' short film from Nuneaton was instructive. He's been actually very good.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...015-scottish-get-in-with-labour-were-done-for

You can find much more vitriol on social media any day of the week. But I'm loath to use that as a measure of anything other than that the Internet teems with arseholes.
 
A woman i vaguely know started going on last night when i was out about how she feels 'really pissed off with scottish people for not voting labour'
That just fucks me off. Had a lot of vitriol along the same vein from a few English friends, one in particular was massively offensive about it. If middle England believed the tory rhetoric how's that the fault of people hundreds of miles away? She hasn't lived up here for years in any case.
 
I can't read the Paul Hutcheon because I've exceeded the Herald quota. But he's generally incisive enough to be hated by Labour and Nats alike...

Here's a wee bit of it.
Murphy, who has never been on the intellectual wing of his party, has always been regarded internally as a

talented self-publicist who was adept at advancing his own interests.

One colleague, explaining Murphy's approach to the media, said: "He once told me he was not bothered about the words in newspapers, just the pictures, and how he looked on TV."

During the campaign, some of Murphy's supporters were taken aback by his obsession with how he looked in the tabloids: how big the photograph was; and whether he came across better than Nicola Sturgeon. He was said to have been driven mad by the exposure given to Sturgeon - particularly after the first leaders' debate involving Miliband and David Cameron - and was grumpy when a daft photo of him emerged in the media.

One senior party figure said he didn't know if

Murphy was campaigning for office, or for "the front page of Vogue". Members of Murphy's team admired his energy, but were bemused by his vanity. They were irked by his bad habit of pulling stupid faces in photo-shoots and grew weary of his incessant football references. He stopped dying his hair, but only reluctantly. The flip-flop campaign strategy was believed to be another reflection of Murphy's shallowness.
 
A woman i vaguely know started going on last night when i was out about how she feels 'really pissed off with scottish people for not voting labour'
Did she notice that if all 59 Scottish seats were Labour, we'd still have a Tory government?

edited: because Tory govt, not Troy
 
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To be more accurate, she was telling "the Scots" to fuck off, not Mrs LR, who identifies as English. The election came up in conversation, rather than being the purpose of the call (though, who knows, maybe she was itching to say it) and became heated on Sally's part. Mrs LR was amused but quite taken aback at how vitriolic her friend became.

As an aside, Mrs LR voted SNP, and had decided to long before I had.

I hope Mrs LR did manage to have a happy birthday, despite weird friend.
 
I thought the standard Scottish stereotype was the incomprehensible alcoholic?

I imagine there's some jealousy because Scotland gets to have nice things, no student fees, no bedroom tax and so on. It's up to England to fight for those things, not whine at others getting them. Same as ever, like people bemoaning the decent terms of employment the public sector gets (or used to) rather than demanding similar from their own employer, backed up with this nonsense that we can't afford things (rather than chose not to afford things).
 
thick twats, even a staunch scots unionist would take umbrage at that tweet. Valuable part of england lol..

The labourite hunt for a clue marches on...
 
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