ruffneck23
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are these the same polls that predicted the destruction of the labour party at may's hands last time ?
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Arsed
Navy suits and white shirts, no ties
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Chaos with Ed Miliband
Apologetic continuation of austerity with Owen Smith. The people's favourite.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, though I think it depends on the parliamentary arithmetic. Solid tory majority and he's gone asap; wafer thin tory majority there may be yet more potential for brexit related faffing about and he stays a bit (provided Labour's don't drop too many seats). I'm not even thinking about a Labour majority, but if there's any kind of 'everyone but the tories and dup' shindig he should be PM, though the liberals will no doubt attempt some kind of absurd wet fart power play to derail him.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Somewhat. He does well in the same way Hillary Clinton - whatever you think about her - did. They answer questions in a way that assumes their audience is intelligent. Trump followed Clinton around like he was trying to sniff her bum and rambled on like an idiot and he won the election.
Corbyn doesn't need to work hard to persuade people who'd already like the way he can appear in a debate. Debates are about intelligence and good sparring skills. Nobody who likes Boris likes intelligence.
But unlike Trump, Boris does like big words and uses them quite well sometimes, so in a debate he could well come across as an upper-class twit. Esp if Corbyn holds back from that.
rekil
to menny cranks
Hard Choices tattooed on knuckles.
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Starry Wisdom
Every time you post you seem to shed intelligence
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Starry Wisdom
Surely by the law of averages they should get a hard decision right soon
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Borstal spots from the PR companies they've worked for.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
But you can operate a time machine.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
When he's told to.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I've spent my whole political life arguing against the crude model of media production and simple public reception. But, this idiot really tests me.
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Starry Wisdom
He couldn't operate a fruit machine
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
But you don't mean in the same way that say, a light sheds light?
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Starry Wisdom
No indeed, like trees shed leaves. Only yer man's nous ain't coming back
Olny one that can see the fucking obvious future
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Arsed
Ok, what will be election outcome. Eg tory majority of x
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I was referring to your finger on the pulse references like “militant”.
Debates are about getting your point of view over to the electorate, and not a lot more. That means a holistic approach to the session, only part of which is winning a debate. Trump did on on bumbling populist stupidity, Johnson does it with posh sounding, 'but I'm really one of you' populism, but Corbyn never really managed to convince anyone except people with similar thoughts to his own. He's preaching to the converted, not bringing lost sheep home.
You may like his politics so see him as some sort of god but, like Michael Foot, he's bloody useless at what he's supposed to be doing.
Where is this coming from? Can you argue with things people say here rather than making up positions for us?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
No fan, but this is piss poor fella.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Just out of interest, who are the Corbyn worshippers round here?
I'm old - live with it.
That set of idiots have long gone but there's a new lot out there pushing extremism, and they're very bad news. They smashed the Labour party of years ago, and the modern left are being used by the 'daily mail' types of today as heralds of a dystopian future, painting a picture of a bunch of crackpot communists running an extremist party that will destroy Britain.
The truth is unimportant, but the image is so, the more the hard left push, the lesser the chance of a socialist government.
Enjoy the likely new Boris Johnson government and all it brings, because the left of the party are too entrenched in their own opinions to see they're working for him.
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Starry Wisdom
Aw he's trying his hardest
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Starry Wisdom
Er Tony Blair smashed the Labour Party of years ago
That wasn't Corbyn being good, it was May being crap. Johnson isn't May and, pity that it is he isn't as shit as her, Corbyn doesn't seem to realise he hasn't got a hope against the PM.
Unless something big happens to expose Johnson before the election, Labour will lose massively, and it will be Corbyn's fault for not stepping down when it was obvious he should have done.
He'll be forced out after the election, but that's way too late.
FridgeMagnet
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this is awful, this is all awful, please stop everyone
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