Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Pickman's model]

Which paedos

You've not followed the news about 'nick' / carl beech I see

 

[Fez909]

Newcastle United piles on the pressure

Club statement - Jeremy Corbyn

 

[Proper Tidy]

Newcastle United piles on the pressure

Club statement - Jeremy Corbyn

Hahaha. God Mike Ashley is a knob.

On this topic, I thought his comments on football club ownership/governance were some of the more interesting stuff he's come out with for a while

 

[Wilf]

Hahaha. God Mike Ashley is a knob.

On this topic, I thought his comments on football club ownership/governance were some of the more interesting stuff he's come out with for a while

A case of being attacked by a dead sheep - a deeply unpleasant dead sheep, certainly - but an ovine cadaver nonetheless.

 

[brogdale]

Thought that Starmer looked particularly smug on C4 News this evening and kept on saying how "he" had to sort out this and that.
Eyeing up the new office already?

 

[drewish]

O Jeremy Corbyn, where did it all go wrong -

 

[Athos]

I just got a call from a private number on my phone, I usually don't bother answering but I did this time and it was Meg Hillier, my old labour mp! She was just calling for a chat, I never done any labour party stuff at all but I was a £3 member/union member for a while a couple of years ago but I think it expired, well she said it had expired anyway. Apparently the word in parliament is there prob won't be an election till next year now... we had a good talk, about how i thought labour was doing etc, but it turned out my new postcode means she isn't my MP any more so Dianne Abbott should be calling me.

Was a pretty surreal evening really. this is all 100% true.

Made me feel like doing some vote knocking this time round.

Diane tried to call but she got the number wrong.

 

[Santino]

Diane tried to call but she got the number wrong.

Do you not agree that repeated attacks on Diane Abbot for her supposed innumeracy are in fact motivated by misogyny and racism?

 

[Athos]

Do you not agree that repeated attacks on Diane Abbot for her supposed innumeracy are in fact motivated by misogyny and racism?

Some of them undoubtedly are. My jibe wasn't. Her innumeracy (or general buffoonery) doesn't really bother me as much as her hypocrisy.

 

[Santino]

Some of them undoubtedly are. My jibe wasn't. Her innumeracy (or general buffoonery) doesn't really bother me as much as her hypocrisy.

Then perhaps stick to criticising that.

 

[Athos]

Then perhaps stick to criticising that.

Wouldn't have really worked in the context of that joke, though.

'Diane tried to call but she's a massive hypocrite.'

 

[cantsin]

Diane tried to call but she got the number wrong.

This sh*t wasn’t funny the first 10k times every other racist half wit on twitter made the same joke ... but 2 + yrs later, you crack on pal, impressive as always

 

[Athos]

This sh*t wasn’t funny the first 10k times every other racist half wit on twitter made the same joke ... but 2 + yrs later, you crack on pal, impressive as always

Yeah, because race can be the only motivation to have a dig at a grammar school, oxbridge, career politician who purports to be on the left but sends her son to private school (after criticising others for doing so).

 

[agricola]

Yeah, because race can be the only motivation to have a dig at a grammar school, oxbridge, career politician who purports to be on the left but sends her son to private school (after criticising others for doing so).

Kind of an odd critique to make then, that she got the number wrong.

 

[Athos]

Kind of an odd critique to make then, that she got the number wrong.

It was a joke, not a critique. And you're conflating motive with means. I'm not poking fun at her because of her innumeracy, but it's too easy a gift to spurn!

 

[Santino]

This racist trope is too easy not to use!

 

[Athos]

This racist trope is too easy not to use!

There's nothing inherently racist about it.

You know who else wore shoes? Hitler!

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh, come on folks. Just because racists and misogynists make use of the number fuck up incident doesn’t mean it is necessary racist to make fun of it. If that had been Boris you’d all have been all over it. Yes Abbott gets a lot of racist and misogynist flak, and that should be called out, but don’t make the error of then lumping all the flak a politician gets as having the same motivation. That’s just daft.

 

[Athos]

Yeah, it's bollocks. I'd defend her from criticism that was racist in content or motivated by racism. But I'm not going to refrain from mocking her simply because racists also mock her. She deserves to be mocked.

 

[Santino]

Oh, come on folks. Just because racists and misogynists make use of the number fuck up incident doesn’t mean it is necessary racist to make fun of it. If that had been Boris you’d all have been all over it. Yes Abbott gets a lot of racist and misogynist flak, and that should be called out, but don’t make the error of then lumping all the flak a politician gets as having the same motivation. That’s just daft.

Remember all those posts about Jess Phillips saying she knocked on 25,000 doors in six weeks? No?

 

[danny la rouge]

Remember all those posts about Jess Phillips saying she knocked on 25,000 doors in six weeks? No?

Jess Phillips gets a lot of misogynist flak on social media. But that’s not going to stop me from picking up on her media fuck ups if I want to.

 

[Athos]

Remember all those posts about Jess Phillips saying she knocked on 25,000 doors in six weeks? No?

Slightly different from the Shadow Home Secretary providing costings for a new policy, don't you think?

Anyway, nobody had denied that Abbot attracts a lot of criticism for the wrong reasons.

My point really is that that not all criticism of her is for those reasons; some of it is legitimate.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Oh, come on folks. Just because racists and misogynists make use of the number fuck up incident doesn’t mean it is necessary racist to make fun of it. If that had been Boris you’d all have been all over it. Yes Abbott gets a lot of racist and misogynist flak, and that should be called out, but don’t make the error of then lumping all the flak a politician gets as having the same motivation. That’s just daft.

Depends what the nature of the flak is. Politicians get facts and figures wrong every now and then - why do you suppose that Abbott’s error has stuck in the popular imagination more than others? Could it perhaps have something to do with long-standing racist and misogynist cultural representations of black women as being stupid/having low IQs and whatnot?

 

[Athos]

Depends what the nature of the flak is. Politicians get facts and figures wrong every now and then - why do you suppose that Abbott’s error has stuck in the popular imagination more than others? Could it perhaps have something to do with long-standing racist and misogynist cultural representations of black women as being stupid/having low IQs and whatnot?

There may be some truth in that. But, I don't remember an instance of so senior a politician getting something so basic so wrong (by orders of magnitude), so publicly and so cringe-makingly.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

There may be some truth in that. But, I don't remember an instance of so senior a politician getting something so basic so wrong (by orders of magnitude), so publicly and so cringe-makingly.

How about Trump and Johnson like every fucking time they open their mouths?

 

[danny la rouge]

Depends what the nature of the flak is. Politicians get facts and figures wrong every now and then - why do you suppose that Abbott’s error has stuck in the popular imagination more than others? Could it perhaps have something to do with long-standing racist and misogynist cultural representations of black women as being stupid/having low IQs and whatnot?

I don’t subscribe to IQ as a measure of anything other than ability to do IQ tests. And that’s not an aside, that’s an important point, and for all sorts of reasons relevant to the notions you raise. So we’ll get that on the table first.

But “Oxbridge graduate who can be a bit of a buffoon” is not a racist trope. You all know Athos didn’t have a racist motivation. So stop pretending you thought he did. Simple as that really.

 

[chilango]

How about Trump and Johnson like every fucking time they open their mouths?

'cos nobody picks up on that?

 

[Athos]

How about Trump and Johnson like every fucking time they open their mouths?

Oh, I thought you meant those that get a free ride. Trump and Johnson are rightly ridiculed.

 

[redsquirrel]

How about Trump and Johnson like every fucking time they open their mouths?

Who both gets loads of flak (some clever, some crap) over countless actions.

I'm with Danny. Yes Abbott gets a lot of misogynistic and racist crap thrown her way, I'll even agree that Athos's joke was pretty weak but that should not stop people taking the piss out of wanker politicians.

 

[Athos]

I'll even agree that Athos's joke was pretty weak...