Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

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I heard a snippet of Rebecca L-B on R4 this morning. She said labour did not want to stop Brexit but instead wanted everything to fall apart, so that they could force an election and take over the Brexit negotiations
Quite how she thinks this will be achieved before March is anyone's guess. In any event, who in their right mind would want to do this

 

[redsquirrel]

That's an interesting spin on her comments.

(I heard her interview on the Today programme and she wasn't very good but the above is not an accurate summary of her comments)

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Was that the one where they repeatedly asked her “can Brexit be stopped?” like it was fucking clever rather than being an obvious attempt at an anti Corbyn gotcha that had nothing to do with the issue?

The whole segment was a bit dumb to be honest - loads of MPs saying “well we haven’t read it yet have we”.

 

[redsquirrel]

That's the one I heard FridgeMagnet

 

[FridgeMagnet]

That's the one I heard FridgeMagnet

She was pretty party line but honestly that interview was embarrassing. They all think they’re feckin Paxman and also that he was any use anyway.

 

[redsquirrel]

Agree with all that.

 

[Supine]

Thought I'd check labour tweets on this evenings political shenanigans.

Nothing from jez, labour or labour press team

 

[brogdale]

Interesting lack of trade on this thread!

I, for one, was pleased to see him go for the Tories' psychopathic class-war at PMQs today; good choice of topic.

 

[cantsin]

Interesting lack of trade on this thread!

I, for one, was pleased to see him go for the Tories' psychopathic class-war at PMQs today; good choice of topic.

agreed, Nick Robinson etc sneering cos they can't see outside of their endless Brexit circular clusterfuck / snoozefest, Corbyn bang in the middle of it all actually addressing stuff that matters

 

[FridgeMagnet]

agreed, Nick Robinson etc sneering cos they can't see outside of their endless Brexit circular clusterfuck / snoozefest, Corbyn bang in the middle of it all actually addressing stuff that matters

It’s driving me nuts at the moment, as well as all the people on twitter convinced that it’s the most important thing this millennium. Yes it’s a significant political issue but the reasons why it’s significant are all affected by other issues as well and those are consistently ignored - the only “debates” proposed are about Brexit. Not that debates will be anything more than bollocks anyway.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ultra-rich shift assets as fear of Labour government mounts
05/10/18 (www.ft. com/content/a1b456d4-c72c-11e8-ba8f-ee390057b8c9 paywalled use outline.com)







tldr. Corbyn worse than Brexit. Capital flight & capital strike if people vote wrong.

TBF, most of those cunts won't be paying much tax anyway, so it's no loss them off-shoring their valuta.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What did they do in the decades when London was abandoned?

Cold storage.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

It’s driving me nuts at the moment, as well as all the people on twitter convinced that it’s the most important thing this millennium. Yes it’s a significant political issue but the reasons why it’s significant are all affected by other issues as well and those are consistently ignored - the only “debates” proposed are about Brexit. Not that debates will be anything more than bollocks anyway.

This. And “the poorest will be worst off” just added every so often as an afterthought, threat, or some half arsed attempt at looking like their arguments have substance.
I don’t have faith in Labour but just hearing anybody attempt to think and talk outside of that bubble is welcome at the moment. Like a double spiced rum and coke after a long day

 

[hash tag]

I haven't heard anything awful lot from jc over brexit but, all credit, all labour Mps appear to be singing from the same song sheet these days.

 

[killer b]

I heard some gossip this week from someone with pretty good insight saying that there is a high chance of a new centrist party forming before the year is out, with the primary objective of splitting the Labour vote to keep Corbyn out of power.

two weeks left on this one. the suspense is killing me.

 

[ska invita]

two weeks left on this one. the suspense is killing me.

i guess turns out to be unnecessary as brexit isnt happening probably

 

[hash tag]

Is brexit the nightmare before Christmas?

 

[ska invita]

Is brexit the nightmare before Christmas?

i think i heard that after the first vote there is a window for a second vote and the second vote will be before NYE? Thats pretty good xmas entertainment

 

[ska invita]

I haven't heard anything awful lot from jc over brexit but, all credit, all labour Mps appear to be singing from the same song sheet these days.

Corbyn fallen into line

 

[Supine]

Is brexit the nightmare before Christmas?

Before, during and after. Brexit is for life, not just for Christmas.

 

[hash tag]

It is obvious that no one has any confidence in our government. Should JC have gone for the vote of no confidence?

 

[Sprocket.]

It is obvious that no one has any confidence in our government. Should JC have gone for the vote of no confidence?

No, it would fail. It would be of no worth to labour at this time. The liberals and SNP are just pushing and are more intent on causing minor mischief than causing a change of government. IMO of course, oh and Len McCluskey.

 

[Teaboy]

It is obvious that no one has any confidence in our government. Should JC have gone for the vote of no confidence?

May's own party will rally around her as will the DUP, this will give her the numbers needed to survive any vote and not only that it will strengthen and embolden the tories even more. Unless there is a tragic food poisoning incident at the tories Christmas party there is no point in going for a vote of no confidence.

ETA: May would probably get a few votes from Labour as well anyway. Kate Hoey straight up.

 

[Sprocket.]

And Caroline Flint!

 

[DotCommunist]

mcdonnels twitter response was along the lines that 'the SNP knows we'd lose and firm up the government avoiding a general election which they fear because we are breathing down thier necks and will win seats' which was suitably bullish

 

[hash tag]

"tragic food poisoning incident at Tory Christmas do"

That would be a shame, especially may might have to miss it.

 

[two sheds]

I liked the original:

Unless there is a tragic food poisoning incident at the tories Christmas party there is no point in going

 

[killer b]

No, it would fail. It would be of no worth to labour at this time. The liberals and SNP are just pushing and are more intent on causing minor mischief than causing a change of government. IMO of course, oh and Len McCluskey.

it isn't 'minor mischief', they're trying to push Labour into supporting a second referendum - which following the logic of conference means a failed VONC first. Some of them (Soubry & Sturgeon at least) have been explicit this is their aim.

 

[Sprocket.]

it isn't 'minor mischief', they're trying to push Labour into supporting a second referendum - which following the logic of conference means a failed VONC first. Some of them (Soubry & Sturgeon at least) have been explicit this is their aim.

Not going to happen though!

 

[killer b]

No. And I'm not sure a second referendum has the numbers either.