Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[killer b]

Dorries doesn't think Class War are Corbyn Cultists. She's just saying it because lots of people don't care enough to know there's a difference, in the hope that some shit will stick.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ian Bone really has become a caricature of himself, I mean fuck the Moggs but what a silly stunt.

The "stunt" is the point.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

It certainly showed how deeply weird and inhuman the Mogg household is.

Quite. Bone was obviously being a twat but Mogg knew what he was doing keeping his kids there.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Dorries doesn't think Class War are Corbyn Cultists. She's just saying it because lots of people don't care enough to know there's a difference, in the hope that some shit will stick.

And that's where the stupidity lies - even someone mostly apolitical will think "Class War? Corbyn? Is she pulling my pisser?".

 

[killer b]

I don't know about that, mostly apolitical people don't even know what class war is.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh yeah he will be loving this being used to beat Corbyn, I just don’t see what this achieves for Ian other than another 15 seconds of media exposure, and if that’s what he wants, why?

Because it draws attention to the nauseating difference between how the governors and the governed live.

 

[treelover]

Unless Bone has gone soft in his old age I can't imagine him having much more time for Corbyn than he does for Rees Mogg.

Class War has traditionally been as hard on Labour as the Tories, hasn't it?

Bone was a very enthusiastic founder member of Left Unity, was at the founding meeting, in a pub, a few people including Andrew Murray.

 

[Rob Ray]

He wasn't a "founder member", he was at the founding conference. Not the same thing.

 

[chilango]

Bone was a very enthusiastic founder member of Left Unity, was at the founding meeting, in a pub, a few people including Andrew Murray.

You're really over-reaching here.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

And that's where the stupidity lies - even someone mostly apolitical will think "Class War? Corbyn? Is she pulling my pisser?".

hmm

i have a nasty feeling that people considered 'mostly apolitical' round these parts would be seen as quite well informed among the general public.

a lot of people out there will just believe whatever the sun / metro etc tell them.

 

[killer b]

a lot of people out there will just believe whatever the sun / metro etc tell them.

I don't think this is true either tbf. Even people who read the sun mostly don't take it very seriously.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Ian Bone really has become a caricature of himself, I mean fuck the Moggs but what a silly stunt.

hardly new territory for ian bone

 

[DotCommunist]

hardly new territory for ian bone

it would barely register as news normally.

 

[not-bono-ever]

IB has spent decades using red top tactics to make a point - not sure why this is headline worthy now

 

[Balbi]

The train thing is funny, as are the cards. But not as funny as calling the cops about it.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Thomas the Tankie Engine

Thomas the Dank Engine

 

[Balbi]

Menacing.



One Twitter head has pointed out that Ryan's card refers to an upcoming Cyprus holiday which she hadn't made public - implying that somehow the Trots, Stalinists & Commies have somehow found out, when actually it probably means it's some staffer within the party having a fucking laugh at them. Or, you know, her previous involvement as an envoy to Cyprus and a member of Labour Friends Of Cyprus

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh yeah he will be loving this being used to beat Corbyn, I just don’t see what this achieves for Ian other than another 15 seconds of media exposure, and if that’s what he wants, why?

There are none so blind as those that will not see

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Yep, Dorries is such a fuckwit that she thinks that Class War are "Corbyn cultists". How she manages to put one foot in front of the other is a constant surprise to me.

Plenty of people are ignorant enough to believe it.

 

[Streathamite]

Dorries doesn't think Class War are Corbyn Cultists. She's just saying it because lots of people don't care enough to know there's a difference, in the hope that some shit will stick.

ermm... Nadine Dorries being a complete moron is usually the most likely explanation for her actions!

 

[killer b]

It isn't.

 

[Dogsauce]

Can’t Bone sue for defamation if he’s being called a Corbyn cultist? It’s clearly untrue. Would be a chuckle to make some of the accusers grovel and apologise.

 

[Almor]

Also anyone taking more than about a minute to think about it would have to start wondering why, if these children were risking being traumatised because of the bad old man saying he disliked daddy, Mogg brought both them and nanny outdoors and then left them there for the duration.

Presumably the full video isn't hard to find but what I've seen shared starts with bone directing comments to children about their parent outside their home which is a bit off with kids that young

 

[Pickman's model]

Presumably the full video isn't hard to find but what I've seen shared starts with bone directing comments to children about their parent outside their home which is a bit off with kids that young

How auld should they be to have comments directed to them about their parents? What says the almor almanack of etiquette?

 

[butchersapron]

Thanks to Danny and Geri for the links that put it better than i could.

Leila has just done another short piece that builds on the above:

Indefensible: Idlib and the left

It is hard to understand how devastating bombing campaigns carried out by the Syrian state and Russia on densely populated residential areas, which have killed hundreds of thousands, can be ignored by anyone who claims to be ‘anti-war’. It seems Syrian lives are only meaningful if they’re destroyed by western bombs.

Can't say i've seen much, no, not much, not anything by the STWC about the coming firestorm in idlib.

 

[kabbes]

Can’t Bone sue for defamation if he’s being called a Corbyn cultist? It’s clearly untrue. Would be a chuckle to make some of the accusers grovel and apologise.

What financial loss has he suffered as a consequence?

 

[Pickman's model]

What financial loss has he suffered as a consequence?

yeh that's the only metric when someone's defamed

 

[Pickman's model]

What financial loss has he suffered as a consequence?

there is no requirement for it to have caused a financial loss

A brief guide to the tort of defamation | Blake Morgan

 

[Poi E]

Ah, the common law prohibition on free speech.

 

[Toast Rider]

What's the problem? Looks to me like Bone has achieved pretty much what he hoped to achieve. I don't think he gives much of a shit if it fucks things up for Corbyn.

What Ian wanted to achieve and what will actually help the working class right now mightn't be the same thing. THis was never going ot play well in the mass media