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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

I think it perfectly expresses the contempt I feel for this particular tone-deaf schoolboy self own. More for Bastani than whoever it was who actually did the prank, mind.

agree, not AB's finest hour ( and was personally referring to the 'deselection express' thing on Twitter previously )
 
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The issue is that the left has been visibly at the forefront of winning and leading battles around gender, LGBT, racism (not saying there isn’t a lot further to go or that it’s a bad thing obviously) while failing to win or being seen to be effectively leading the battle for economic justice, and indeed the centre left seems to have given up at least some of that fight altogether while the further left has simply been incompetent.

Of course that’s because the former battles are winnable as they don’t challenge the prevailing economic system in the way that economic justice must do.

a disabled/sick person is killing themselves nearly every week, doesn't seem much urgency on that.
 
"]The issue is that the left has been visibly at the forefront of winning and leading battles around gender, LGBT, racism (not saying there isn’t a lot further to go or that it’s a bad thing obviously) while failing to win or being seen to be effectively leading the battle for economic justice, and indeed the centre left seems to have given up at least some of that fight altogether while the further left has simply been incompetent."

Of course that’s because the former battles are winnable as they don’t challenge the prevailing economic system in the way that economic justice must do.[/QUOTE]


There was a very prescient article in Red Pepper, yes, RP, about this a number of years ago, how these would become much easier gains in the future, and that many of the winners would become the oppressors in other economic ways.


Yeah there's a lot to that, the ability of capitalism to co-opt social cultural change (the pink pound etc) is in part what made it a fight the left could win even when in economic terms it had been blasted off the map.

That is partly why the SWP focus on such things, easier straightforward wins, popular support, lots of publicity, for minimum risk, their two fronts, UAF/SUTR are hosting a major european anti-racism/fascism, Conference soon, its may be needed, but i wish it wasn't them doing it.
 
a disabled/sick person is killing themselves nearly every week, doesn't seem much urgency on that.
Nor is there much urgency regarding the thousands of people sleeping rough in Britain's towns and cities, and the many problems surrounding that, many of which are disabled/sick themselves, falling afoul of the benefit system.

On another note, there are times when I longed for the days when the worst Corbyn could do in the eyes of the media was walk past some empty train seats.
 
Antisemitism in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia


Anti-Semitism Brushed Under The Carpet By An Anti-Semitic Media:

There will be no endless front pages, op-eds, cartoons, "debates" and columns about Tony Blair being paid millions by an institutionally anti-semitic country, or the government selling them weapons for Islamic extremism and butchery.

These links to anti semitism are much stronger and more objective than what someone said about a mural, or dancing around a dozen definitions of zionism etc.

But the story of Blair and May's clear links to rancid anti semitism will not run for an hour in the news cycle, let alone month upon month. Anti-semitism is no use to the establishment media unless it's useful for we-know-what.

As such, their cynical and insincere exploitation of victims for political end is deeply anti-semitic.
 
Corbyn being blamed on Twitter atm for Ian Bone having a pop at Rees-Mogg today. Will something so demonstrably untrue stick? Things are so nuts these days I wouldn't be totally surprised tbh.

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Antisemitism in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia


Anti-Semitism Brushed Under The Carpet By An Anti-Semitic Media:

There will be no endless front pages, op-eds, cartoons, "debates" and columns about Tony Blair being paid millions by an institutionally anti-semitic country, or the government selling them weapons for Islamic extremism and butchery.

These links to anti semitism are much stronger and more objective than what someone said about a mural, or dancing around a dozen definitions of zionism etc.

But the story of Blair and May's clear links to rancid anti semitism will not run for an hour in the news cycle, let alone month upon month. Anti-semitism is no use to the establishment media unless it's useful for we-know-what.

As such, their cynical and insincere exploitation of victims for political end is deeply anti-semitic.

It really does my head in when people have a go at the Saudis for being anti-semitic, anti-women, for committing war crimes or for executing political prisoners - it never has any effect and the likes of Blair will continue to rake it in. If people are going to criticize Saudi then surely its going to be much more effective to point out how many witches they have executed over the past twenty years.
 
It really does my head in when people have a go at the Saudis for being anti-semitic, anti-women, for committing war crimes or for executing political prisoners - it never has any effect and the likes of Blair will continue to rake it in. If people are going to criticize Saudi then surely its going to be much more effective to point out how many witches they have executed over the past twenty years.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I doubt standing up for Pagans (you are right that we should) would have a different effect.

If they don't mind Islamic extremism, hatred of Jews and mysoginy I doubt that sympathy for alleged pagans will tip the balance.
 
He was a founder of left unity, bad form this, not with his kids.
I think you may be confusing a few kinds words about andrew burgin with being a 'founder of left unity'. What on earth would that have to do with anything if it was correct anyway? Are they some role model we need to emulate?
 
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He was, he was very enthusiastic about it as well, the media will find someway to link it to the Corbynistas who moved from them to the LP.
 
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I doubt standing up for Pagans (you are right that we should) would have a different effect.

If they don't mind Islamic extremism, hatred of Jews and mysoginy I doubt that sympathy for alleged pagans will tip the balance.

I was being entirely serious; lots of regimes are anti-semitic, commit war crimes, kill opponents or hate women (or some mixture of the same). I can't think of another state that kills people for acts of witchcraft, so it should be highlighted.
 
What's the problem? Looks to me like Bone has achieved pretty much what he hoped to achieve. I don't think he gives much of a shit if it fucks things up for Corbyn.
 
Unless Bone has gone soft in his old age I can't imagine him having much more time for Corbyn than he does for Rees Mogg.

Class War has traditionally been as hard on Labour as the Tories, hasn't it?
 
Oh yeah he will be loving this being used to beat Corbyn, I just don’t see what this achieves for Ian other than another 15 seconds of media exposure, and if that’s what he wants, why?
 
Also anyone taking more than about a minute to think about it would have to start wondering why, if these children were risking being traumatised because of the bad old man saying he disliked daddy, Mogg brought both them and nanny outdoors and then left them there for the duration.
 
Corbyn being blamed on Twitter atm for Ian Bone having a pop at Rees-Mogg today. Will something so demonstrably untrue stick? Things are so nuts these days I wouldn't be totally surprised tbh.

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Yep, Dorries is such a fuckwit that she thinks that Class War are "Corbyn cultists". How she manages to put one foot in front of the other is a constant surprise to me.
 
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