brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You saying it's not a plot? You do realise those 172 MPs all formed the 184 that failed to vote against the 2nd reading of the vermin's Welfare Reform & Work bill?
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Piss-poor? According to your narrative he backed the winning side
But not for 7 out of 10 so he can expect declining loyalty.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
There'll be much more of this.
Ah, moose is back. How's this coming along?
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Don't you ever get tired of just gobbing off aimlessly? Thus far the only thing you've said that has any actual evidence for it is that Corbyn's unpopular with the PLP and is unlikely to become more so. Where has he shown evidence he thinks he's "the messiah" beyond not stepping down when his opponents tell him to, for very obvious reasons that people have repeatedly outlined for you? What evidence is there of declining grassroots support? What evidence is there that he failed to deliver votes compared to anyone else in Westminster? Fucksake.
mojo pixy
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For what it's worth, Dennis Skinner shook his hand ostentatiously in the commons yesterday, and appeared to flick a V at some others on his own benches.
discokermit
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three or four on mine.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
A clusterfuck for sure but when that many are opposed it ceases to be a plot and just becomes what is, PLP v Corbyn. There are better ways for the membership to win than to lose all MPs and keep Corbyn. Get a real leader and on due course move aside the ones who cannot be redeemed.
If you want the Big Bang a purely left party then Corbyn is merely a means to that end. Laudable as that may be it won't win an election imp. Some compromise is required inevitably.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I was thinking surely they'd be smart enough to keep up the "we like him but it's for the good of the party" schtick, surely they wouldn't be so utterly dense as to overtly patronise their own voters again. Apparently not.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
no, plp versus membership and electorate.
ska invita
back on the other side
The compromise was for the MPs to sit tight and let him have his shot at the job. Now there is no room for compromise - only for the destruction of the party. That is the only outcome left.
Ole
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You think the PLP will happily work with a really strong, effective left-wing leader? Whoever you think that is.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Christ there really is no room for compromise anymore. Corbyn did that at the start, that's why he had the cabinet he did but now they've stabbed him in the back and look how quick he filled his new cabinet. Took 13 days for the first one, the post back stabbing one took 24 hours, if that because that's who he wanted in the first place. This is a war for who controls the party now and I don't think it's going to hold together. Cunts like Blunkett telling them to go and form their own party do you think him and his supporters are gonna go 'yes ok we'll do that?' Fuck that, why would he when he has the support of the members and trade unions?
not-bono-ever
meh
A couple of things i have mentioned before
1) The political class these days are a truly awful bunch of self interest driven carnivorous cunts- seemingly populated by people who have had brief , if any, exposure to any kind of real world work ( not channeling falanage there you dig..)
2) I can see a new reincarnation of the SDP thang coming up here
1) The political class these days are a truly awful bunch of self interest driven carnivorous cunts- seemingly populated by people who have had brief , if any, exposure to any kind of real world work ( not channeling falanage there you dig..)
2) I can see a new reincarnation of the SDP thang coming up here
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
It's etxtraordinary isn't it? Why they think the general public are going to warm to them when they've just been told to fuck off is utterly beyond me. It's either willfull ignorance, they've completely run out of ideas and only know how to be a neo liberal dullard in a suit or it's both. Either way their days are over.
not-bono-ever
meh
wreckers. punishable by execution in the old days
teuchter
je suis teuchter
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Thought this, found via another forum, was interesting (I've never heard of the author btw):
It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid. - Craig Murray
It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid. - Craig Murray
JimW
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Worth a try, then maybe shove them in a box room and forget about it.
coley
Well-Known Member
Legal opinion is he is automatically on the betting slip unless he actually resigns, which I now hope he doesn't,
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Who cares?
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
The most astonishing thing is in all of this is that while trying their level best to persuade the public he's an unelectable charisma vacuum with not enough stomach for the job, they've instead somehow turned Jeremy Corbyn into an indomitable People's Warrior against the Westminster cuntocracy. They've fashioned their own anti-Establishment nemesis out of one of the most beige men in the entire Commons.
No wonder the poor bloke looks tired, he's gone from allotment-scratcher to cipher for the collective wound-up hatred of every snubbed leftie in Britain and it's entirely down to the people who were supposed to have him beat from the outset.
not-bono-ever
meh
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oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Like I say never heard of him - what's his form?
coley
Well-Known Member
Yep, split the party into ever less effective protest groups and see Labour's share of the vote dip even further!
Great news, hope they do it, will fuck the Tory vote,big time
blood red, deep red and pinkish, take your pick, At least it will get rid of the labour movement of its Blairite proto Tories.
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