belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Took me ages to work out what the hell you meant then, as I'm not a southerner
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Is he the miner who challenged OS about Orgreave?
If so, have these people got no fucking shame?
Plumdaff
joy in people
Took me ages to work out what the hell you meant then, as I'm not a southerner
It was a bit crepe, a pun too farl.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The very same, and no.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Soda, so good.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
kinnock refused to support the miners strike. Shame isn't in their vocab. Milliband refused to support a few strikes then turned up at durham miners gala. The lack of shame is such that they would probably curl one out on the steps of a church for votes
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
To be honest, I'm glazing over.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
To be honest, I'm glazing over.
Do nut let it get to you.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Woman in the red dress, presumably one of his staff, is thinking "fucking hell, where's the car? Fucking hurry up, this could be a gillian duffy moment, i need to rescue owen from this situation but I'm not sure how to speak to real people."Here he is, challenging Smith
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
think people are making a whole meal out of it, he got a bit floury with his language and wasn't kneaded any more
ska invita
back on the other side
Amusing
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Labour Party conference may be cancelled because of security cock-up around an NEC boycott of G4S according to the Granuiad:
Labour conference in peril as G4S rules out last-minute deal
How does this fit into the Corbyn narrative?
It seems like a pretty basic and fundamental error - is it the fault of an anti-Corbyn fifth column or does the blame lay at the feet of the great man and his confederates...?
Labour conference in peril as G4S rules out last-minute deal
How does this fit into the Corbyn narrative?
It seems like a pretty basic and fundamental error - is it the fault of an anti-Corbyn fifth column or does the blame lay at the feet of the great man and his confederates...?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
It's probably not a cock up but another thing manufactured to throw at Corbyn.
rioted
redundant
Perhaps you would like to indicate how Corbyn has ANY responsibility for this. The Annual Conference is (dis)organised by the Blairite dominated National Executive Committee. How are you tying that to Corbyn?
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Because Diamond is like a shit Columbo - always asking one more question when no one cares.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Poor Jeremy Corbyn. Everyone's been saying for years how he's not a proper politician and doesn't have the stomach to do what needs to be done in the top flight of the Westminster rough-and-tumble.
Then the minute he starts lying and fabricating stories for mass-media consumption, everyone starts losing their shit.
Then the minute he starts lying and fabricating stories for mass-media consumption, everyone starts losing their shit.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Next to tall guy, behind tall guy, next to seat behind tall guy.
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Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Apparently John Dunn, the Orgreave miner who has been suspended from the Labour Party and therefore cannot vote in the leadership election, has been a Labour Party member for 45 years, which give or take a few days is the same amount of time Owen Smith has been alive for.
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
The conference thing is really, really, really odd. It's almost as if the numbers suggest Corbyn is winning and they know with mass support he can enact some serious changes to the party structure via conference that will be very difficult to roll back so at all costs, they have to delay conference to make time for plan b (or plan c,d,e,f,g) making up a story that sounds credible such as 'it's loony left political sensitivities about Israel which scuppered it.' It's like something from a satire about the left of the Labour party. It stinks of a cleverly placed story.
I'm not a tin foil hat person normally, but that sounds about as likely as 'they all just forgot they needed security' in a time when politicians are (and with good reason tbf) somewhat jumpy about their security arrangements.
I'm not a tin foil hat person normally, but that sounds about as likely as 'they all just forgot they needed security' in a time when politicians are (and with good reason tbf) somewhat jumpy about their security arrangements.
This has been highlighted on the Unite website for about a month and the refusal of security companies to recognise trade union members.
I am surprised that unions and the Labour Party are still using private security companies for Conference venues. Surely there are enough members and workers who are capable of being trained for such duties and paid a decent wage for doing it.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Even training shouldn't be an issue I wouldn't have thought. You need a certificate right? Must be enough who have it. Or am I being overly optimistic?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
then the press would get a picture of one looking faintly grumpy and do a headline about jc's hired thugs / stormtroopers or some such bollocks
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
I'd suggest in the current climate it was a case of being pragmatic and just getting the best security you could, holding your nose and knowing that the conference was a step towards being in a position to force union recognition or enact an appropriate policy towards Israel. You'd still need someone to train those people, presumably that would be one of the two large security companies capable of co-ordinating the event in the first place so you'd be giving them trade (albeit less) if they were willing to undertake such training. It's a good idea though.
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
But it's not a case of just getting some bouncers is it? It's a big operation, especially in the light of a recent murder and so on. You'd need someone to co-ordinate it and train people to organise and supervise. I don't know to what to degree the more nuanced elements of security for a large event of this nature are down to the police or part of the whole private sector deal means this sort of thing isn't really down to the police at all and you have to 'buy in' a service, instead of paying a policing bill.
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