Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[belboid]

Odd - they've edited the Formby bit out in that version. You can find the old copy on google news.

lol, off you fuck.

 

[JimW]

Bit I saw on newsnight last night had some journo claiming it was about G4S investments in Israel with no mention of union recognition. First I'd heard, is this a narrative that's being pushed by PLP to make it seem less cut and dried?

 

[Sprocket.]

Bit I saw on newsnight last night had some journo claiming it was about G4S investments in Israel with no mention of union recognition. First I'd heard, is this a narrative that's being pushed by PLP to make it seem less cut and dried?

This is another angle from last week trying to show a division developing between unions over the matter, but it is all just wind in the sails of the vessel trying to vilify unions.

EXCL GMB and Unite go to war over Labour party conference security row

 

[belboid]

Bit I saw on newsnight last night had some journo claiming it was about G4S investments in Israel with no mention of union recognition. First I'd heard, is this a narrative that's being pushed by PLP to make it seem less cut and dried?

G4S aren't being used because of Israel, the union recognition row is the alternative company Showsec.

 

[Rob Ray]

young Rob Ray has expended nearly one-quarter of all his posts here

In fairness my posting rate generally is pretty low and I have a lot of Corbyn-related stuff go past my desk because of the job. Also wtf?

and all of it a load of croque, monsieur.

A delicious mix of meaty comment with cheese on top? You're too kind.

 

[brogdale]

G4S aren't being used because of Israel, the union recognition row is the alternative company Showsec.

Yes, according to Newsnight, the (old) NEC decision to boycott was taken in response to G4S's Israeli involvement, and still stands...despite G4S's (apparent) decision to withdraw from Israel.

 

[belboid]

Yes, according to Newsnight, the (old) NEC decision to boycott was taken in response to G4S's Israeli involvement, and still stands...despite G4S's (apparent) decision to withdraw from Israel.

A cause championed by Sarah Champion, so the right can't even blame it on Corbyn (not that that will stop certain dumb and dishonest elements).

 

[brogdale]

A cause championed by Sarah Champion, so the right can't even blame it on Corbyn (not that that will stop certain dumb and dishonest elements).

Yes. The reports about last November's NEC sound oddly familiar:-

It’s understood the decision took place on Tuesday evening after the Labour Party’s NEC meeting.

It is also believed that the majority of the NEC’s 33 members had already left the meeting, including Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and deputy leader Tom Watson.

 

[treelover]

It's probably not a cock up but another thing manufactured to throw at Corbyn.

Interesting how Labour boycotted G4S over its involvement in Israel, not its cheap labour/olympics/workfare involvement.

 

[treelover]

Apparently John Dunn, the Orgreave miner who has been suspended from the Labour Party and therefore cannot vote in the leadership election, has been a Labour Party member for 45 years, which give or take a few days is the same amount of time Owen Smith has been alive for.

His speech at the Corbyn rally was superb: moving, powerful, angry but compassionate.

 

[Pickman's model]

Interesting how Labour boycotted G4S over its involvement in Israel, not its cheap labour/olympics/workfare involvement.

interesting how you never suggested labour should boycott g4s in the past.

 

[Pickman's model]

His speech at the Corbyn rally was superb: moving, powerful, angry but compassionate.

so you liked his delivery. but which parts of the content did you agree with?

 

[treelover]

then the press would get a picture of one looking faintly grumpy and do a headline about jc's hired thugs / stormtroopers or some such bollocks

Still wouldn't compare with the one where they physically threw the veteran member and pensioner Walter Wolfgang out of the Blair led conference in 2005

 

[treelover]

Presumably such events are subject to permission and licensing at some level also. That permission must be subject to certain arrangements and given well in advance. You can't just gather thousands of people for a one off event without telling the local police or other authorities can you? That makes it even more unlikely that security could just be 'overlooked' - even stranger is the idea that it was an individual responsibility, it's not like asking someone to make a quiche for a jacob's join in the end of term staffroom lunch, it's a pretty fundamental element of the event and presumably, given as the party seems to have procedure for everything, there is some sort of policy and procedure and some sort of checking and corporate responsibility. The Labour Party is a big beast with a multi-million pound turnover. My work place is tiny in comparison but we have systems to ensure event arrangements are double + triple checked. The leader might change, but the procedure remains the same.

Maybe Free Spirit could organise it.

 

[killer b]

Maybe Free Spirit could organise it.

Ha! Yes. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Get on it FS - Jeremy needs you now.

 

[Rob Ray]

so you liked his delivery. but which parts of the content did you agree with?

In fairness he's entitled to express admiration for the general thrust and approach of someone's speech without needing to break it down line by line. I thoroughly enjoyed Corbyn going full geography teacher on Owen Smith at the hustings over their respective European referendum contributions, while caring very little about which one of them was actually right.

 

[Pickman's model]

In fairness he's entitled to express admiration for the general thrust and approach of someone's speech without needing to break it down line by line.

and he has done that. "in fairness" i am entitled to ask him which parts of the content he agreed with.

 

[rioted]

i am entitled ...

You demonstrate your adherence to that state of mind very well. And very often.

 

[Rob Ray]

and he has done that. "in fairness" i am entitled to ask him which parts of the content he agreed with.

You surely are entitled to ask a question tangential to what he was saying. Seems a waste of time to me, but then again we're all posting on Urban I suppose.

 

[Pickman's model]

You surely are entitled to ask a question tangential to what he was saying. Seems a waste of time to me, but then again we're all posting on Urban I suppose.

if you think it's a waste of time i have to question why you're posting on urban.

 

[Pickman's model]

You demonstrate your adherence to that state of mind very well. And very often.

and you post up vacuous wank with a frequency that in any other poster would defy credulity.

anyone with a mere ounce of nous would have recognised i was echoing the language in the post i quoted.

 

[DotCommunist]

so st J's not done anything exciting today. Maybe he went for a walk by the canal, checked over his marrows. While plotting to overthrow western civilisation and institute communism obvs

 

[Rob Ray]

if you think it's a waste of time i have to question why you're posting on urban.

Because I get bored at work, mainly. You?

 

[Pickman's model]

Because I get bored at work, mainly. You?

a range of reasons i have addressed in several places over the years. but i still wonder why you bother if you think it a waste of time when there's so much of the internet you could be exploring.

 

[Rob Ray]

a range of reasons i have addressed in several places over the years. but i still wonder why you bother if you think it a waste of time when there's so much of the internet you could be exploring.

I just love your cranky posts too much.

 

[Pickman's model]

I just love your cranky posts too much.

i dearly wish i could say the same of your contributions.

 

[Rob Ray]

i dearly wish i could say the same of your contributions.

Aw babe why'd you have to go there?

 

[Pickman's model]

Aw babe why'd you have to go there?

i've never thought your posts cranky tbh

 

[Rob Ray]

We all have our off days .

 

[Pickman's model]

We all have our off days .

yeh but then we're back at work and posting here