Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Is there a specific Brexit angle? The deep state fear of an administration that might actually enact the will of the 52% and consequently fuck-up Good Friday?
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adams and corbyn in happier times
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
1983 didn't always feel like 'happier times' but, in retrospect...yep.
adams and corbyn in happier times
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times when they weren't fallen out
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
How do they know they are fake accounts? Timing of all the messages?
hehe apart from the identical wording.
Does this mean they've got MPs who are bots?
Having looked into it I am less sure now, it looks to me like the accounts are spam accounts repeating 'real tweets' in order to avoid being banned by twitter. Looks like another Eoin fuck up.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Just the background of the picture tells us of an era when we had a Greater London Council and a proper NHS. Never mind a coal industry, unions...etc.
You should always assume this straight away when he's involved, saves bothering looking into it.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Unauthorised action?
what of it?
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falling down on duty a serious offence in the met.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Look at 'em, hipster cunts!
adams and corbyn in happier times
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
Ta for the link, really interesting - there's a Nancy Fraser lecture where she defines a role of critical theorists as 'identifying the most effective/vulnerable areas for action/intervention/change' (i'm paraphrasing from memory), & this describes the same process from a different perspective.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Why Jeremy Corbyn’s support for disabled people is not enough | Frances Ryan
Frances Ryan - as a champion of disability rights and a disabled person herself she comes out in support of the man who abstained on the welfare bill rather than the person who voted against it.
Its just laughable - and shes being ripped to shreds in the comments section. I really hope they are overplaying their hand with the "get corbyn" campaign. It wont wash with the labour membership - its being overwhelmingly countered on social media and in day to day conversations - but Im wondering if the wider public will start to see it through it as well - and there is anecdotal evidence of this.
As with Trump, Fargage and Sanders - and the brexit campaign - the more he is vilified the more it cements his anti-establishment credentials.
On a side note - this cant be doing much for the guardian's sales figures either.
Frances Ryan - as a champion of disability rights and a disabled person herself she comes out in support of the man who abstained on the welfare bill rather than the person who voted against it.
Its just laughable - and shes being ripped to shreds in the comments section. I really hope they are overplaying their hand with the "get corbyn" campaign. It wont wash with the labour membership - its being overwhelmingly countered on social media and in day to day conversations - but Im wondering if the wider public will start to see it through it as well - and there is anecdotal evidence of this.
As with Trump, Fargage and Sanders - and the brexit campaign - the more he is vilified the more it cements his anti-establishment credentials.
On a side note - this cant be doing much for the guardian's sales figures either.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
WRT the diversity issues smears against Corbyn and the membership - rather than detailed erbuttals - maybe one way to counter it is for leading gay, Jewish, disabled, feminist etc activists to attack the PLP for their disgusting exploitation of these issues for their shitty agenda. Some of this has already happened - but it needs to be co-ordinated.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
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i had never previously heard of leverage points and am grateful to you for bringing them to my attention.
Doctor Carrot
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I'm aghast at it really. If there's one thing all this has exposed (and it's not just one thing) it's the snivelling slimyness of liberals. I've learnt more and more over the years why there's such disdain for them on here but never really got the vitriol they received, I never thought they were quite as disgusting as many on here made out, yes even when in coalition, but I really, really get it now. That article is just disgusting really. I mean listen to it:
'The Labour leadership's decision to abstain on the welfare bill showed Labour had abandoned disabled people' - I'm paraphrasing but it subtley attempts to equate the leadership with Corbyn so therefore Corbyn abandon the disabled, even if Corbyn wasn't leader at the time the bill was voted on (I can't remember) it still, in the context of that article, equates Corbyn's leadership with that article. It then goes on to say 'Notably Corbyn voted against the bill' right so which is it? Corbyn, and therefore the leadership, abandons disabled people or it doesn't? It then goes on to say Owen Fucking Smith is the man for the disabled... What? The man who abstained on that bill? The man who said Labour couldn't abandon WCA tests because it would make them appear weak? The man who supports the version of Labour that brought in thoses tests? It's another mind boggler.
It's a pattern I've noticed though recently, both in the wider press and in personal discussion. Again I'll go back to that Facebook argument. I pointed out that Debonaire's account is probably at best exagerated and at worst bullshit. I made the point that when she got the job of shadow secretary she was delighted and went on about how progressive Corbyn was for giving somebody with cancer such a job, a few weeks later she essentially called him an incompetent arse. I asked him which position was true? No answer, he dodged the question. Whether they're conscious they're doing this or not I don't know. I do know when you point it out you're called a bully, a liar and so on. It's not even a question of whether Debonaire's a liar or not it's the fact it shows up how piss poor her, and others like her's judgment is. Again, point this out and it's bully, bad attitude and so on. That fact alone and that people can see through it quite easily is why they're going to lose.
Been in dialogue with Frances, bit shocked by this. I have major issues with JC, he has admitted turning around public opinion on benefits will be hard, and at first chose to not prioritise it, but i still think he is the one who would do more to challenge the sanctions, etc.
I think you are right, it can't be left to the media and the PLP/Rebels to set the agenda, i note Tani Grey-Thompson has been quiet upto now.
No, of course he wasn't, it was Harriet Harman who was acting leader, I actually think she did it on tactical/strategic grounds and probably would have voted against in other circumstances.
JimW
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Thought I'd read Corbyn has said he'll end sanctions but I'm not certain that is policy.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
What's the tactical/strategic grounds?
So, they didn't look weak on welfare at present, "but will will review it later , etc", the soft left have kept saying this, the Blairites just hate Social Security..
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
The Owen Smith line of reasoning. Served them well at the previous election...
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