Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[nino_savatte]

Nearly 4 million Labour voters disappeared over the course of 13 years. That's quite an achievement.

 

[nino_savatte]

But that's not how it will be seen, and that's Corbyn's biggest problem.

By whom? You seem to forget that this whole 'Get Corbyn out' thing is media-driven. Interestingly, those like the fuckwit that started this thread, can only repeat the narratives they've heard or read in the media.

 

[Dan U]

Whatever anyone thinks of Corbyn, blaming him for a generations neglect of labour heartlands and expecting them to ignore the world they now live in and suddenly vote the way he half heartedly wants within a year or so of being in the job is pretty daft.

What's worse is many of the people I see on social media blaming him for it were the same people calling everyone who voted leave racist, bigots or thick (sometimes all three)

Join the dots ffs.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Nearly 4 million Labour voters disappeared over the course of 13 years. That's quite an achievement.

Innit! Nearly 4 million (including me) who would rather vote for a dog turd than Blair.

 

[nino_savatte]

Whatever anyone thinks of Corbyn, blaming him for a generations neglect of labour heartlands and expecting them to ignore the world they now live in and suddenly vote the way he half heartedly wants within a year or so of being in the job is pretty daft.

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they won the last two general elections.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they won the last two general elections

i'm not sure it's quite that simple.

for the blairites, winning an election justifies their being right-wing. losing an election means they aren't being right-wing enough.

 

[brogdale]

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they won the last two general elections.

In a sense, they did.

 

[Biscuitician]

By whom? You seem to forget that this whole 'Get Corbyn out' thing is media-driven. Interestingly, those like the fuckwit that started this thread, can only repeat the narratives they've heard or read in the media.

As I say, by the general public. I agree that this is media driven, but right or wrong that media seems to be influencing people.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'll rephrase that.

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they have a winning formula after suffering two general election defeats and losing 4m Labour voters.

 

[nino_savatte]

As I say, by the general public. I agree that this is media driven, but right or wrong that media seems to be influencing people.

So this general public, any idea where they get their ideas from? After all, discourse or narratives aren't produced in a vacuum.

 

[brogdale]

I'll rephrase that.

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they have a winning formula after suffering two general election defeats and losing 4m Labour voters.

Their psychosis appears to manifest as a belief that they have any place in a soi-disant socialist party.

 

[Biscuitician]

So this general public, any idea where they get their ideas from? After all, discourse (or narratives) aren't produced in a vacuum.

I'm saying that they, broadly, are influenced by the media. Not everyone of course. Some people like him, some people support and listen to him. Others don't for all sorts of reasons.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'm saying that they, broadly, are influenced by the media. Not everyone of course. Some people like him, some people support and listen to him. Others don't for all sorts of reasons.

Many people don't like the Tories or the Lib Dems. I'm not sure I understand your argument. The general public isn't a monolith.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Here's her statement in full...

Are you trying to bring evidence to an opinion fight?

 

[Sifta]

It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid. - Craig Murray

 

[agricola]

I'll rephrase that.

The Labour right is suffering from a form of mass psychosis that leads them to believe that they have a winning formula after suffering two general election defeats and losing 4m Labour voters.

Lets not forget the great victory of theirs in the leadership election either, when Mandelson claimed Corbyn failed to get a mandate.

 

[treelover]

Jeremy Corbyn has made his point. Now it’s time for Labour to move on | Zoe Williams


Oh Noes, Zoe has come out against JC

 

[killer b]

I think it'll be difficult for him to come out of this in charge tbh. Can only hope the membership take their revenge.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid. - Craig Murray

Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.

Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its “progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary.” He also called Israel “an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise.”

Consequently, said Benn, “Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist.”

What a cunt.

The dots are well & truly fuckin' joined!

 

[hash tag]

I can't catch up with this. I've just got home and find that half the shadow cabinet have walked out and nichola sturgon will save us

 

[Smangus]

God this country is falling apart , it couldn't even have the decency to wait until Monday until it started. The only people smiling now are UKIP and the far right ffs. Someone better step up to the plate Corbyn or whoever but just fucking do it.

 

[agricola]

It's Still the Iraq War, Stupid. - Craig Murray

If Bercow has any sense of humour at all, he should let Corbyn open the Labour response and have Benn speak last.

 

[nino_savatte]

Tweet from Paul Flynn.

 

[chilango]

Is Labour in Englandandwales facing the same fate as in Scotland?

If they get this wrong, which seems inevitable, I think it's a real danger.

 

[yield]

Enough. No more. Labour is dead to me.

 

[brogdale]

Is Labour in Englandandwales facing the same fate as in Scotland?

If they get this wrong, which seems inevitable, I think it's a real danger.

By, local & other elections and polling suggest otherwise?

 

[chilango]

By, local & other elections and polling suggest otherwise?

Aye. But if they dump Corbyn and lurch Blairwards?

 

[brogdale]

Aye. But if they dump Corbyn and lurch Blairwards?

Oh yeah.

 

[mk12]

Is Labour in Englandandwales facing the same fate as in Scotland?

If they get this wrong, which seems inevitable, I think it's a real danger.

With UKIP as the SNP equivalent?

 

[chilango]

With UKIP as the SNP equivalent?

P'raps.