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Jeremy Clarkson: strikers should be "executed in front of their families"

People did complain about the suicide comments FM, just not in the numbers that did yesterday...I can see why...the strike is/was the 'hot' topic for the last few weeks. JC is a mug of the highest order. I don't think calling people the 'offenderati' for objecting to his increasing nastiness is fair either. Both the suicide comments and those from yesterday are down right out of order....But hey JC has the luxury of saying shit for saying shit's sake. God forbid anyone in this world has ever been killed or persecuted for going against the government/system, god forbid that anyone of us knows someone or has familial experience of suicide! That's right Jeremy, fuck off you potty mouthed, empathy-less twat.
 
Rutita1 said:
People did complain about the suicide comments FM, just not in the numbers that did yesterday...I can see why...the strike is/was the 'hot' topic for the last few weeks. JC is a mug of the highest order. I don't think calling people the 'offenderati' for objecting to his increasing nastiness is fair either. Both the suicide comments and those from yesterday are down right out of order....But hey JC has the luxury of saying shit for saying shit's sake. God forbid anyone in this world has ever been killed or persecuted for going against the government/system, god forbid that anyone of us knows someone or has familial experience of suicide! That's right Jeremy, fuck off you potty mouthed, empathy-less twat.
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saying 'fuck off you potty mouthed empathy-less twat' is unlikely to successfully convey the point you wish to make.
 
FridgeMagnet said:
I can't stand Clarkson and what he represents, but if he's going to be attacked for something, it shouldn't be for one of the bits where he's being self-deprecating and even mildly funny. He should have been criticised for the suicide comments, which have just fallen off the radar. Now it all just looks like reflex offended crap.
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Good point. Especially a few days after a fairly high profile suicide. And anyway, it seems mildly funny when you think about the pointlessness of the train stopping. if you don't actually spare a second to have the follow up thought, there's a guy driving that train who couldn't stop in time and will be interviewed as a matter of course. My dad's a retired train driver FWIW and though no one jumped in front of his IIRC, some of his colleagues had it happen.
 
Jezza is blates lying in his leather swivel armchair as we type, chubby elbows rested on satin armrests, wanking off to all this attention, thinking up a few multiple syllable words to aid his forthcoming righteous rage of pontification in the Sun.

Bit amazed he's getting all the attention tbh -- Clarkson in 'controversial statement' shocker, who'd have thunk it. Just read his views on the train suicide stuff in a desire to find something offensive, and even that is just so 'O U!' Would have been a better RL-troll if he said he wished they could just put the windscreen wipers on, like what he does in his new beast when it hits a peasant...
 
Only extrapolating here but if someone jumps out in front of any other driver (bus/truck/car) there's always some remote chance that the driver can take steps to avoid disaster or at least try and minimise the damage done to the victim. Horrible though it would be to run someone over, at least the driver could take some small comfort that they had a shot at, however infinitessimally slightly, influencing the outcome.

Train drivers do not have that luxury. It must be absolutely horrific to be in charge of a couple of hunderd tons of train running some poor fucker over and knowing there was not a single thing you could do about it. Little wonder the train stops. If for no other reason, the driver is going to be pretty fucked up and not in any state to continue the journey.

The union comments was clarkson being his usual smug dickhead self. Shitty and throwaway though his comments were on that score, the train suicide shit imo was far fucking worse.
 
Riklet said:
Jezza is blates lying in his leather swivel armchair as we type, chubby elbows rested on satin armrests, wanking off to all this attention, thinking up a few multiple syllable words to aid his forthcoming righteous rage of pontification in the Sun.
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He's fucked off to China. No idea whether it was a planned trip.

One small point: Chubby *elbows* wtf? Almost deserves a thread of it's own.

(if you, or someone you know, has been affected by chubby elbows, please contact our chubby elbows helpline, where trained staff will be able to help)
 
I'm sure this has already been covered, but we have a dickhead here with previous who has come out with comments on live TV about executing people, a bloke who has been quoted and praised in the manifesto of a recent executer/murderer of over 70 kids, a bloke who himself has a licence for shotguns and who has been defended for his comments by the leader of the current government, the same government that recently sent down 2 kids for 4 years for their Facebook joke, and the same government who are behind the arms sales and support of regimes currently executing their own people.

tbh, It all leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
 
Some interesting points in this thread interspersed with incidences of what appears to be a bad attack of tourettes from some posters.
 
So I have read the thread, and watched the clip. All I can say is that the man was clearly taking the piss. His body language and the reactions of the people laughing in the background all tell me this. Clarkson is, and this has been said many times here and elsewhere, someone who is deliberately extreme in his views to get a rise out of the people he is talking to. That's it, end of story, he is the deliberately embarrassing dad, the sort who would show your new boyfriend pics of you aged two running naked in the garden.

Sack him? For what? Causing you to be embarrassed? Getting paid a lot for being a loud-mouth?

The amount of time and effort being put into hounding him seems disproportionate to the actual offence, pun intended.
 
having read the full transcript of the exchange, it's clear to me that he was criticising the BBC for it's overuse of savage right-wingers as 'balanced views'.

to paraphrase that stuart lee vid that's been doing the rounds the last couple of days, he was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and implied values of the BBC to satirise the rhetoric and implied values of the BBC. i can't see any other realistic reading of the comments.
 
killer b said:
having read the full transcript of the exchange, it's clear to me that he was criticising the BBC for it's overuse of savage right-wingers as 'balanced views'.

to paraphrase that stuart lee vid that's been doing the rounds the last couple of days, he was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and implied values of the BBC to satirise the rhetoric and implied values of the BBC. i can't see any other realistic reading of the comments.
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You've read the full transcript? What do you think of the suicide comments?
 
I see the issue but can't bandwagon. Do not like Clarkson and would like to see him executed in front of his family but this does not deserve the headlines it has had. Had the media not latched onto this it would have had many less complaints.

If anything he used an extreme (killing) opinion to present his view. He might be anti-strike but the fact he wants them all killed (as I would say about the tory party and other personal hate figures) is his version of 'being funny' rather than pretending to be a serious political commentator.
 
I think this has been given to much headspace, column space, urban space. Clarkson should be treated with contempt he deserves. He's a walking parody.
 
clarkson did something controversial? He has a DVD out at the moment?

well who would have thought it eh?

Ill go to the foot of our stairs.
 
Grandma Death said:
I think this has been given to much headspace, column space, urban space. Clarkson should be treated with contempt he deserves. He's a walking parody.
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Worked though didn't it?

It became a very prominent story to the detriment of any story about e.g. ordinary working people striking over being screwed by a government that wants to renege on public sector pension agreements.
 
twistedAM said:
Adding to what revol68 said, it's a crap response from Unison. It looks like they're taking a rent-a-mouth seriously and giving him more media coverage rather than actually attacking the people that matter. The Unison PR office are playing spin without knowing the rules of the game.
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Whats always baffled me is why the unions have never say allowed a 'reality tv show' to document life in a union, say a young organiser, they could even show the training, etc they go thorough...
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Worked though didn't it?

It became a very prominent story to the detriment of any story about e.g. ordinary working people striking over being screwed by a government that wants to renege on public sector pension agreements.
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If I were more cynical, I might even think he had planned this with Cameron's blessing.
 
ElizabethofYork said:
It was funny to see the union bloke on the BBC this morning making a fool of himself over this story.
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I heard some Tory on the radio saying Unison had played a blinder as the strike wasn't as well supported as they hoped and that Clarkson had gifted them an opportunity to erase debate on the success of the strike from the pages.

That's what certainly happened but I doubt Unison had that in mind and in the medium and longer term they've played into the hands of the government on the public vs private sector pension debate.
 
Pickman's model said:
no you can't. otherwise there wouldn't be words like equivocal. sometimes it is obvious what someone means, perhaps due to their language, perhaps due to the manner in which the comment is delivered. other times it's not so clear, for example euphemisms. the nazis, for instance, used a wide range of euphemisms to describe their treatment of the jews and other groups they targeted, things like 'special treatment' or 'resettlement in the east'. someone seeing that last one might think jews really had been resettled in the east. the intent behind it is somewhat hidden. equally, the new police phrase of 'robust policing' means to people who've seen it that they whack people. other people might have different interpretations of the phrase. i'm sure you can think of a variety of other phrases where people's meanings are unclear except to those who can understand the coded language.
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'We are giving unemployed and disabled people even more help and support', often said by Condems trying to promote the welfare reforms, when what is actually happening is harrassment, bullying and victorian style welfare programmes
 
treelover said:
'We are giving unemployed and disabled people even more help and support', often said by Condems trying to promote the welfare reforms, when what is actually happening is harrassment, bullying and victorian style welfare programmes
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They learnt that off labour. Dress vicious treatment up as "help" use fluffy language. I think we got it off the yanks when they were attempting to drive single mums off the face of the planet, that was "tough love".
 
treelover said:
Whats always baffled me is why the unions have never say allowed a 'reality tv show' to document life in a union, say a young organiser, they could even show the training, etc they go thorough...
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It's a long time ago since i worked in the national office of a trade union, but let's just say the office would't have been mistaken for a brainiac convention. They seconded me to the Labour Party for a while and, to use a soccer analogy, it was a bit like going from a non-League club to Arsenal in terms of how they played things. That was in the early 90s; I imagine the gap has widened since then.
 
Some blogs are saying that the GMB are planning to organise a picket line outside Clarksons home, I sincerely hope they don't, the RMT could consider it though in relation to the suicide comments..
 
I must apologise for my over reaction yesterday. I would have been more understanding if JC didn't have such an instantly punchable face.
 
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