Is it worrying that EDL members freedoms are restricted

[Streathamite]

Unification Church, eh? Dating yourself there, Liam.

mebbe Liam was talking about his plans to go Mooning....

 

[LiamO]

Dating yourself there, Liam.

At least I'd be dating someone I could agree with... erm... some of the time anyway....

 

[audiotech]

its an awkward one - should fascists be able to march into asian areas with the sole intention of causing trouble?

Remember Altab Ali.

 

[Nylock]

Interesting article here from SPIKED

banned from attending or helping to organise any demonstration, meeting or gathering held by his political organisation or even visiting its website for 10 years. In addition, he was banned from travelling by train anywhere in the UK and from entering a mosque, meeting room, school or cultural centre.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/10290/

What do people think, obviously the EDL are repulsive but this is draconian punishments being handed down to their members.

hmm, should hate organisations and their representatives be allowed to perpetuate their message and kick off trouble wherever they turn up? Definately a moral minefield there alright

 

[The39thStep]

its an awkward one - should fascists be able to march into asian areas with the sole intention of causing trouble?

Whilst i have no doubt that the EDL want to end up in a valiant punch up with Muslims and UAF they aren't marching anywhere , least of all asian areas,are they? They have static demos in Town Centres .

The phrase Asian areas isn't particularly helpful either.

 

[The39thStep]

Well i've met up with the poster on urban belboid at anti-EDL protests. Although that was before the coalition.....

i think we have all met up with belboid at some point!

 

[manny-p]

Whilst i have no doubt that the EDL want to end up in a valiant punch up with Muslims and UAF they aren't marching anywhere , least of all asian areas,are they? They have static demos in Town Centres .

The phrase Asian areas isn't particularly helpful either.

Its sadly pretty factual though. The ghettoisation of certain areas is a fact.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Its sadly pretty factual though. The ghettoisation of certain areas is a fact.

Who lives in these Asian areas?

Louis MacNeice

 

[LiamO]

i think we have all met up with belboid at some point!

I haven't... yet.

 

[past caring]

The Lizard King.

 

[LiamO]

The phrase Asian areas isn't particularly helpful either.

What exactly is the problem with the phrase?

Kilburn, Cricklewood, Willesden etc were often referred to as 'Irish areas' of London up until the 80's.

Same in the 60's and 70's with Gosford Street/Hillfields in Coventry, Digbeth in Brum, and various areas of Luton, Manchester, Leeds etc etc. Don't remember the phrase 'Irish area' ever being contentious and indeed was in common parlance amongst the left of the day.

Never meant that nobody else lived there, just that there was a high proportion of Irish people in them.

 

[past caring]

I suppose it's to do with the fact that unlike the word Irish, Asian describes neither culture or nationality - only skin colour. Which tells us not a lot about those who live there.

 

[goldenecitrone]

What exactly is the problem with the phrase?

Kilburn, Cricklewood, Willesden etc were often referred to as 'Irish areas' of London up until the 80's.

Same in the 60's and 70's with Gosford Street/Hillfields in Coventry, Digbeth in Brum, and various areas of Luton, Manchester, Leeds etc etc. Don't remember the phrase 'Irish area' ever being contentious and indeed was in common parlance amongst the left of the day.

Never meant that nobody else lived there, just that there was a high proportion of Irish people in them.

Irish is a bit more specific. Asian is too broad a term.

 

[TremulousTetra]

not read the whole thread.

imo, I don't mind 'the people'the community however you want to put it, restricting the rights of fascists, but I don't support the state doing it.