Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[brogdale]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

Dunno, but 10/10 we know what colour their vests will be.

 

[Sprocket.]

David copeland i meant. Not sure where mark Chapman came from. Maybe the copy of The Catcher in the Rye on my desk!

 

[8ball]

Yeah I agree. i really cant see riots or mass civil unrest.

I reckon most Brexitiers will just shrug their shoulders and move on. There will be a tiny bunch of far right people hell bent of making a point though.

Yeah, I think a whole bunch of people (not just Brexitieres by the way) are entirely bored with it.
And when people get really bored of something, what do they turn to?

Adequate food, that's what.

 

[belboid]

Dunno, but 10/10 we know what colour their vests will be.

They will be red white and blue! No need for any foreign imports. Tho yellow was jolly appropriate for Jonny Frenchman, of course. [/kipper]

 

[cupid_stunt]

But beyond that no, Farage doesn't strike me as the sort who could lead a charge over the barricades shouting Give Me Brexit or Give Me Death!

He's threaten it - Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines”

 

[SpookyFrank]

The chances of civil war will depend almost entirely on whether or not the front lines are within easy waddling distance of a wetherspoon's.

 

[8ball]

The chances of civil war will depend almost entirely on whether or not the front lines are within easy waddling distance of a wetherspoon's.

I just want to calmly register my outrage and will be following up with a longer response which will include the word "structural" at least four times.

 

[MickiQ]

He's threaten it - Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines”

The front lines is the new name for the bar is it? I'm 61 and fit for my age but rioting is a young persons game, I'm certainly not up to it and most of the hardcore "We Won't Stand for This OUTRAGE" Brexiteers I know are older than I am.

 

[maomao]

The front lines is the new name for the bar is it?

And Don Kahki is his mate that's getting a round in.

 

[treelover]

surely, that would sink any other politician, perhaps even falange?, but for some reason, not johnson

 

[Poi E]

Maybe in a sensible place like Italy but not here.

 

[toblerone3]

Could Boris Johnson bring the country together with his No Deal Brexit, bumbling buffoonish ways and random forays into social liberalism?

I think he is a clever politician and might combine a No Deal Brexit with a dose of Corbynism ie social liberalism combined with an end to Austerity.

 

[gosub]

Rioting will be stem from mobility scooter go slows

 

[Drarok]

It's not simply a binary choice between a massive revolt and all those who voted Leave shrugging and moving on though, is it?

That's the same sort of simplistic bollocks which has been all too common in discussions on this issue, mostly, it has to be said, from those who favour remaining...

Hol' up. Both sides of this debate are prone to massive over-simplification. This sort of fake news is, mostly, it has to be said, from those who favour leaving…

 

[Pickman's model]

Could Boris Johnson bring the country together with his No Deal Brexit, bumbling buffoonish ways and random forays into social liberalism?

I think he is a clever politician and might combine a No Deal Brexit with a dose of Corbynism ie social liberalism combined with an end to Austerity.

he might soon be the convict boris johnson

 

[Artaxerxes]

No riots and unrest if we renege and just cancel Brexit but the major political parties will be dead.

I'd say that was a plus but it's probably the Brexit party that replaces one and Lib Dems (back again, shit) the other.

 

[Wilf]

Bercow says he's staying ... Maria Miller tells him to fuck off...

Bercow should go as Speaker over bullying inquiry, says Miller

 

[Mr Moose]

No riots and unrest if we renege and just cancel Brexit but the major political parties will be dead.

I'd say that was a plus but it's probably the Brexit party that replaces one and Lib Dems (back again, shit) the other.

We don’t have two parties because they are any good. We have them because of the interests they represent. They won’t die because of Brexir when all the frames of reference are still ‘a Labour voter who voted Lib Dem’ or ‘a Tory voter who voted BP’. The voters are merely on loan.

 

[Artaxerxes]

We don’t have two parties because they are any good. We have them because of the interests they represent. They won’t die because of Brexir when all the frames of reference are still ‘a Labour voter who voted Lib Dem’ or ‘a Tory voter who voted BP’. The voters are merely on loan.

The interests will move along with the voters, we've already seen investors becoming skittish about donating.

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The trade unions might stick with Labour but capital will invest elsewhere if needed.

 

[Pickman's model]

The interests will move along with the voters, we've already seen investors becoming skittish about donating.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The trade unions might stick with Labour but capital will invest elsewhere if needed.

Paywall

 

[Poi E]

The UK Conservative party is facing a worsening cash crunch as some funders hold off from making donations while Theresa May remains prime minister, according to several party donors. The financial pressures have prompted concerns over whether the party can afford to fight a snap general election as growing numbers of ministers and MPs believe that Mrs May’s refusal to countenance alternative proposals for leaving the EU may result in a dissolution of parliament. Mick Davis, the Tories’ chief executive, has told supporters in recent meetings that the party urgently needs more donations to keep itself afloat. Sir Mick, former chief of mining company Xstrata, is also one of the largest individuals donors, giving £295,500 in the last quarter of 2018. “It apparently has just £1.5m left in the bank, an incredibly low financial buffer, and no donors want to give any money because of the total chaos,” said one fundraiser. One senior figure at Conservative headquarters said “donors are frustrated by the parliamentary party’s failure to get behind the prime minister”. However, one Tory donor said: “We are frustrated by lack of consistency: Mick plans to raise £32m in 2019 from donations, while at the same time it is obvious that the donors have lost confidence in Number 10. Hence no money is coming in.” Another senior Tory agreed that the party’s two treasurers, Sir Mick and Ehud Sheleg, an art gallery director, “themselves are putting in more than they expected to”. Conservative Campaign Headquarters declined to comment on the claims. According to the minutes of a recent meeting of party donors seen by the Financial Times, the party’s income last year was £26m and its expenses were £25m, leaving an operating income of £1m. About £3m of legal costs detailed in the minutes, which are related to an investigation into election expenses in South Thanet during the 2015 general election, according to a party campaigner, are thought to have eaten into the party’s cash reserves. The largest cost has been £5m spent on a team of campaign managers recruited in the wake of the party’s disappointing performance in the 2017 election. These individuals have been working in marginal seats, but some donors have criticised the expense. “Adding to the worries is the direct and indirect costs for the campaign managers; costs Labour do not have to worry about,” said a donor. “Hence [Sir Mick] Davis’s odd claim that if an election had to be fought, CCHQ would be ready. It seems highly inconsistent with the actual finances.” One Conservative MP with knowledge of the situation said: “It is true that we should be doing much better on fundraising. But it is far from dire, the donors just want clarity.” But many Conservative donors have refused to increase funding to the party while Mrs May remains leader, with several Eurosceptics stating that a new prime minister must be installed before they will donate any more money.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Paywall

Google the headline to unlock it's secrets.

 

[Poi E]

So Tories going broke. Well, they've run the country into the ground so the party is next. Will they collapse into a blue hole from which no shire escapes?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Google the headline to unlock it's secrets.

Blimey, that works, worth knowing for the future, cheers.

"Conservative party faces cash crunch as pressure grows on Theresa May" - Google Search

 

[Pickman's model]

Google the headline to unlock it's secrets.

Is it too much to ask for paywalled material to be copied and pasted or screenshots taken?

 

[brogdale]

Caught the eye; spending £3m to defend over-spending.
How very tory.

About £3m of legal costs detailed in the minutes, which are related to an investigation into election expenses in South Thanet during the 2015 general election, according to a party campaigner, are thought to have eaten into the party’s cash reserves.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Is it too much to ask for paywalled material to be copied and pasted or screenshots taken?

TBF, that's a breach of copyright, and in theory could result in action against urban.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Is it too much to ask for paywalled material to be copied and pasted or screenshots taken?

When I'm posting on the phone and can't be fucked it is.

Blimey, that works, worth knowing for the future, cheers.

It's one of the less annoying paywalls. It also tends to add a load of shit to your copy/paste if you do copy the source.

 

[Pickman's model]

When I'm posting on the phone and can't be fucked it is.

maybe find a different source for people who are on the phone themselves and don't want to google where they shouldn't have to

 

[Artaxerxes]

maybe find a different source for people who are on the phone themselves and don't want to google where they shouldn't have to

No.