Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Raheem]

Why would that give it less legitimacy?

It will have either greater or lesser legitimacy depending on what the person speaking wants it to have.

 

[mod]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

 

[teuchter]

4.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

That's a bit tricky to answer since there was a reasonable chance of riots even before the referendum. But I'll say 8.

 

[redsquirrel]

I'm totally against a second referendum for a variety of reasons.

As one example as to the possible result and mess afterwards though, what if it's a close 'remain' vote but with a lower turn-out, and so has less legitimacy?

Certainly there has been no thought to all the questions a 2nd referendum might raise because it those proposing it see it as nothing other than a mechanism designed to simply shut down the issue, to put the genie back in the bottle and go back to 2015.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Why would that give it less legitimacy?

Because the number of people voting to remain in a new referendum would be smaller than the number who voted to leave in the last one.

 

[marty21]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

2

 

[Pickman's model]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

there is a 10 out of 10 chance of civil unrest happening whether brexit happens in whatever form or if it is revoked or otherwise prevented

it might not be related to brexit, mind

 

[Pickman's model]

2

thought you'd be more of an e man

 

[kabbes]

21

 

[marty21]

21

meant to say that, some civil unrest made me jump and press enter

 

[belboid]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

A fascism that makes Griffin look like a fluffy poodle will re-emerge in the likes of Mansfield and Wakefield, and it will be a shit scary time to be an Eastern European.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

low. Despite Farage's bluster, his attempts at mass demos, etc, have been pitiful. There's a reason for that.

Depends on how it doesn't happen as well. If it were to not happen under a new labour govt, that would be rather different from it not happening under the tories.

 

[mod]

low. Despite Farage's bluster, his attempts at mass demos, etc, have been pitiful. There's a reason for that.

Depends on how it doesn't happen as well. If it were to not happen under a new labour govt, that would be rather different from it not happening under the tories.

Yeah I agree. i really cant see riots or mass civil unrest.

I reckon most Brexitiers will just shrug their shoulders and move on. There will be a tiny bunch of far right people hell bent of making a point though.

 

[teuchter]

Because the number of people voting to remain in a new referendum would be smaller than the number who voted to leave in the last one.

So what?

 

[andysays]

So what?

 

[belboid]

I reckon most Brexitiers will just shrug their shoulders and move on.

are you kidding??

 

[SpackleFrog]

Yeah I agree. i really cant see riots or mass civil unrest.

I reckon most Brexitiers will just shrug their shoulders and move on. There will be a tiny bunch of far right people hell bent of making a point though.

I reckon we're about 48 hours away from socialist utopia. After all, that's what I'd like to happen.

 

[Pickman's model]

I reckon we're about 48 hours away from socialist utopia. After all, that's what I'd like to happen.

and only 24 hours from tulsa

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah I agree. i really cant see riots or mass civil unrest.

I reckon most Brexitiers will just shrug their shoulders and move on. There will be a tiny bunch of far right people hell bent of making a point though.

i think you're being overly optimistic but i daresay we'll find out in a few months time

 

[mod]

are you kidding??

I'll put it another way.

I reckon most people who voted leave will just shrug their shoulders and move on.

Yeah I believe that.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'll put it another way.

I reckon most people who voted leave will just shrug their shoulders and move on.

Yeah I believe that.

i think the bunch of far right people may be rather larger than tiny

 

[mod]

i think the bunch of far right people may be rather larger than tiny

I used to really worry about this. 100s of English Anders Breiviks waiting to strike.

Maybe wishful thinking on my part but i just don't get a sense of there will be a massive revolt if/when (fingers crossed) Article 50 is revoked.

 

[Pickman's model]

I used to really worry about this. 100s of English Anders Breiviks waiting to strike.

Maybe wishful thinking on my part but i just don't get a sense of there will be a massive revolt if/when (fingers crossed) Article 50 is revoked.

don't think you'll get a great ton of breiviks but you might get a lot of people following the likes of paul golding, tommy robinson etc

 

[andysays]

I used to really worry about this. 100s of English Anders Breiviks waiting to strike.

Maybe wishful thinking on my part but i just don't get a sense of there will be a massive revolt if/when (fingers crossed) Article 50 is revoked.

It's not simply a binary choice between a massive revolt and all those who voted Leave shrugging and moving on though, is it?

That's the same sort of simplistic bollocks which has been all too common in discussions on this issue, mostly, it has to be said, from those who favour remaining...

 

[mod]

It's not simply a binary choice between a massive revolt and all those who voted Leave shrugging and moving on though, is it?

I didn't say it was. I don't believe there will be a revolt or civil unrest.

 

[mod]

don't think you'll get a great ton of breiviks but you might get a lot of people following the likes of paul golding, tommy robinson etc

Yep of course. Probably more in the David copeland mould. It's possible.

Edited.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep of course. Probably more in the Mark Chapman mould. It's possible.

what mark chapman shot john lennon mark chapman?

 

[mod]

what mark chapman shot john lennon mark chapman?

David copeland i meant. Not sure where mark Chapman came from. Maybe the copy of The Catcher in the Rye on my desk!

 

[MickiQ]

Open question to you all.

On the scale of 0 to 10.

What chance do you think there is of civil unrest happening 'if' Brexit doesn't happen? Riots, street battles, terrorist attacks etc.

Less than < 1/10 Somewhere between 0.5 and 0.9. There will be lots of angry people sat in Weatherspoons muttering into their pints and loads of boring shit posted on Facebook about TREASON and BETRAYAL. (caps are important). Probably a few more wastrels clambering about on railway station roofs. There is a possibility of violence where I work since our in-ofice Brexiteer's ranting was bad enough when May delayed it. If it gets cancelled someone (possibly me) will end up killing him and stuffing his body in the dumpster out back.
But beyond that no, Farage doesn't strike me as the sort who could lead a charge over the barricades shouting Give Me Brexit or Give Me Death!