Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Sprocket.]

Just got this through post. Addressed to me!!!

 

[Ranbay]

Had one last week, it's such a good money making Scam,

already see a guy in Brexit Party T-shirt and some house notices up down the road.....

He's coining it in.

 

[Ranbay]

In a few months there wont be any such thing as the Brexit party,.... so it's win win

 

[Pickman's model]

In a few months there wont be any such thing as the Brexit party,.... so it's whine whine

C4u

 

[Wilf]

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Just got this through post. Addressed to me!!!

Surely you would listen to a 'Decorated Royal Marine'? Yeah, just about as much as I'd listen to a cake or a Christmas Tree.

 

[killer b]

In a few months there wont be any such thing as the Brexit party,.... so it's win win

Wouldnt bet on that at all.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

In a few months there wont be any such thing as the Brexit party,.... so it's win win

Where politically do you envisage the 17 million leave voters going? If you assume they will forget about it and drift back to Con/Labour I'd suggest you are wide of the mark.

I'd also suggest BP is merely the latest attempt to fill the vacuum. Regardless of what happens to it those funding it and politically invested in it aren't simply going to 'go away' because they recognise that the space left by mainstream parties is opening wider and deepening.

 

[killer b]

Yeah there was some research a few months ago about where the demand lay for a new political party, and it wasnt for a new centrist group (as the TIG polling demonstrates). It was for a new populist right wing party. And now here we are.

 

[andysays]

Brexit: UK 'has to fight European elections', says David Lidington

The UK will have to fight European elections, despite hopes from the government a Brexit deal would be done by then, says the PM's de facto deputy. The vote is due on 23 May, but Theresa May said the UK would not have to take part if MPs agreed a Brexit plan first. Now, David Lidington says "regrettably" it is "not going to be possible to finish that process" before the date the UK legally has to take part.

A number of other parties have already announced their candidates and launched their European election campaigns, but the Conservatives have yet to do the same.

 

[Pickman's model]

Brexit: UK 'has to fight European elections', says David Lidington

it'll be perhaps the cheapest election campaign fought in the last 30 years

 

[Wilf]

Where politically do you envisage the 17 million leave voters going? If you assume they will forget about it and drift back to Con/Labour I'd suggest you are wide of the mark.

I'd also suggest BP is merely the latest attempt to fill the vacuum. Regardless of what happens to it those funding it and politically invested in it aren't simply going to 'go away' because they recognise that the space left by mainstream parties is opening wider and deepening.

Yeah, this, though every judgement is a bit provisional at the moment. Kippers and Brexiter Party-ists probably have a dream of the Tory Party splitting and gaining a big blob of ERG-ers. Where we are now I can't see the Tory Party actually splitting and the Westminster electoral system still works against 3rd/4th/5th parties. But there's definitely scope for a Brexit/populist party to exist and become a significant political presence.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

But there's definitely scope for a Brexit/populist party to exist and become a significant political presence.

TBF though, there's been one for years in UKIP. Aren't the Brexit party more or less just filling the hole they've left due to falling apart/going hard right since the referendum?

 

[Sprocket.]

UK 'has to fight European elections'

Tories up for it.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Yeah, this, though every judgement is a bit provisional at the moment. Kippers and Brexiter Party-ists probably have a dream of the Tory Party splitting and gaining a big blob of ERG-ers. Where we are now I can't see the Tory Party actually splitting and the Westminster electoral system still works against 3rd/4th/5th parties. But there's definitely scope for a Brexit/populist party to exist and become a significant political presence.

I don't say this lightly, but I think if the Tories can't find a way to win a general election again they might well split.

 

[Ranbay]

Where politically do you envisage the 17 million leave voters going? If you assume they will forget about it and drift back to Con/Labour I'd suggest you are wide of the mark.

I'd also suggest BP is merely the latest attempt to fill the vacuum. Regardless of what happens to it those funding it and politically invested in it aren't simply going to 'go away' because they recognise that the space left by mainstream parties is opening wider and deepening.

You think he's going to keep it going and get MP's after any MEP's ( good chance any wining MEPs wont even take their seats)

 

[andysays]

Yeah, this, though every judgement is a bit provisional at the moment. Kippers and Brexiter Party-ists probably have a dream of the Tory Party splitting and gaining a big blob of ERG-ers. Where we are now I can't see the Tory Party actually splitting and the Westminster electoral system still works against 3rd/4th/5th parties. But there's definitely scope for a Brexit/populist party to exist and become a significant political presence.

If the ERG or some similar anti-EU grouping of MPs does split from the Tory party, I'm not sure how great a match they would be with either UKIP, the Brexit party or any other populist far right party we could imagine.

Possible, but by no means certain.

 

[Ranbay]

Also how stupid would it be to have a party called the Brexit party after we done a Breixt? whole thing is just one massive con.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Also how stupid would it be to have a party called the Brexit party after we done a Breixt? whole thing is just one massive con.

I would have thought given you're in charge of the Countdown to Brexit you might have noticed we aren't Doing A Brexit any time soon!

 

[Ranbay]

I would have thought given you're in charge of the Countdown to Brexit you might have noticed we aren't Doing A Brexit any time soon!

Sometime within the next 177 days

 

[SpackleFrog]

Sometime within the next 177 days

We'll see!

 

[Pickman's model]

Also how stupid would it be to have a party called the Brexit party after we done a Breixt? whole thing is just one massive con.

We already have a con party

 

[brogdale]

Also how stupid would it be to have a party called the Brexit party after we done a Breixt? whole thing is just one massive con.

If May ever gets her Withdrawal Agreement through Parliament, there'll still be a great deal of Brexit left to do tbh.
The end of the beginning...and all that...

Doesn't look at all politically stupid to me.

 

[Ranbay]

If May ever gets her Withdrawal Agreement through Parliament, there'll still be a great deal of Brexit left to do tbh.
The end of the beginning...and all that...

Doesn't look at all politically stupid to me.

So it's a long game and MP's seats etc and not a short game and a coin it in.

 

[redsquirrel]

TBF though, there's been one for years in UKIP. Aren't the Brexit party more or less just filling the hole they've left due to falling apart/going hard right since the referendum?

Yes, but that rather proves the point. There clearly is political space for a hard right populist party, since ~2000 you've had the rise and fall of the two most electorally successful hard right parties in the UK, and those results show that there is a not insignificant percent of the electorate that want's something along the lines of UKIP, similar to what we are seeing across Western Europe. FPTP is always going to put pressure on these parties, in terms of making any electoral breakthrough more difficult, but such latent support is definitely there.

 

[Ranbay]

£100 a pop

 

[Ranbay]

 

[cupid_stunt]

£100 a pop, to try to get selected to stand for Parliament, with not a hope in fucking hell of ever getting elected.

 

[Ranbay]

So yeah, definitely not a scam or anything

 

[Ranbay]

He’s got a few months to rinse the plebs....

Once Brexit is done he can retire then.

 

[Pickman's model]

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So former afa members, anl, lmhr, yre, afn all can stand for the Brexit party but not antifa