Steel Icarus
maybe I'm a maze
Do I have to break out the Leonidas picture again?
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
- Thread starter Kaka Tim
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andysays
Love and solidarity
If you say so, Humpty
Steel Icarus
maybe I'm a maze
True, true
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
What the Irish border issue?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
He's one of your own,
He's one of yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn,
Obsessed with borders,
He's one of your own.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s sneaky and underhand. To the feedback forum and beg for the quote function to be disabled!
Or just ignore the massive wanker, works for me
Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
Brexit. It would be wrong not to get this sorted as quick as possible. How many delays is that now? It could go wrong couldn't it? For the economy or whatever, but more so for people and their jobs. The lot of them appear to be useless. I've no confidence that we are in a pair of 'safe hands', or competently administered. Neither do I have much confidence that they are genuinely honourable in their intentions; not that the idea is a novel one but they clearly put themselves first and work for their own enrichment and that of their masters. Although telling them apart (masters and eager puppets) isn't so simple, such is their connectedness or closed elitism.
As an aside, where did this 'power stance' bullshit come from? It is only a small point but they all seem to be onto that. It shows a cynicism I think, and is revealing of the nature of how they see themselves in relation to us and how they are all 'in on it' i.e we their constituents are gullible and should be treated as such. It seems underhand, and although only a small thing it sticks out because it is so blatant and obviously looks completely ridiculous. It illustrates their general lack or real principle beyond the obvious selfishness of their motives. I am contradicting the 'useless/incompetent bit' but they really are shit nonentities as well as greedy. Yet they continue to hold power over us and to come out with all the cruel policies that they have imposed in recent years.
So, useless they may be, in part due to their weird lack of empathy and human decency, but the apparent shitness is because they are liars/actors, in the sense that they pretend to care about (at least some sections of) society and to serve us and fight for us, but they really are not. Their ideology/party dogma is leaned on only insofar as it supports their interests e.g find a scapegoat group and divide the people against each other.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
I was gently trying to get you to discuss your politics; but it's pretty apparent you won't or can't.
As a behaviour it's a little odd for a contributor to a politics board; but it's not the end of the world, so I'll leave you to it...whatever it is you think you're doing.
Have fun - Louis MacNeice
philosophical
Well-Known Member
You wanted a sense of my politics and I mentioned a few issues and where I stand on them.
You didn't ask me for a discussion. Anyway I don't know why you asked in the first place, a little odd on a brexit thread.
Have fun.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Same reason you can't persuade a pigeon to discuss the rules of chess.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh but you can't get a rook to shut up about the game
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
so - which online random quote generator does this piece of bafflement come from?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
remainer ableism, strike 1
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You need to read a book like 'how to make friends and influence people'. At the moment you come across like a thick as pigshit cunt which I am sure is not how you desire to be seen.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
On Marr this morning McDonnell was furious about this being leaked by the tories. The anger suggests that there will indeed be a customs union alignment type deal in the offing.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
So, what does the ruling class want? Is a question worth asking.
Is it that a lack of patriotism and belief that Britain is better off alone and anyone else can get to fuck the problem? That there is no room for equivocation. When there obviously is. And these lot complain they have too much on their hands and therefore duck it for their own careers.
If we are to accept the referendum is sacred/binding; what then? Less war, enmity, disagreement, bad feelings? What governments have we had since becoming a member of this institution? Who pays into it? Parliamentary sinecures for example. When did it/they help us? OK that question should be answered: they didn't. Its an arrangement between bosses. A confederacy of former rivals that is about making money for them, which is taken off us. It is, at best, a self-serving arrangement.
Therefore, do we want to buy into this scheme and keep going where they want us to end up (they might not have a clear idea as such in many of its enthusiasts minds)? A place where we would lose our self-reliance, autonomy or ability to self-start politically. And for what? The threat that that they can leave us out in the cold? I'll explain that because it is contentious: numerity, coalition does not guarantee safety. What does is trust between the public and the governing system. The world isn't 'us in the EU' vs the rest of the world. It is to have equality, solidarity. Otherwise someone if not us ourselves will get fucked. Which I feel is a more accurate indicator, and a more reliable standard. So to be better people, not to have more power/better trade deals.
Is it that a lack of patriotism and belief that Britain is better off alone and anyone else can get to fuck the problem? That there is no room for equivocation. When there obviously is. And these lot complain they have too much on their hands and therefore duck it for their own careers.
If we are to accept the referendum is sacred/binding; what then? Less war, enmity, disagreement, bad feelings? What governments have we had since becoming a member of this institution? Who pays into it? Parliamentary sinecures for example. When did it/they help us? OK that question should be answered: they didn't. Its an arrangement between bosses. A confederacy of former rivals that is about making money for them, which is taken off us. It is, at best, a self-serving arrangement.
Therefore, do we want to buy into this scheme and keep going where they want us to end up (they might not have a clear idea as such in many of its enthusiasts minds)? A place where we would lose our self-reliance, autonomy or ability to self-start politically. And for what? The threat that that they can leave us out in the cold? I'll explain that because it is contentious: numerity, coalition does not guarantee safety. What does is trust between the public and the governing system. The world isn't 'us in the EU' vs the rest of the world. It is to have equality, solidarity. Otherwise someone if not us ourselves will get fucked. Which I feel is a more accurate indicator, and a more reliable standard. So to be better people, not to have more power/better trade deals.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Do you have a summary?
Smangus
comatose at a desk
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Probably lost something in translation from the original Russian.
No quotes from J A Hobson, I surmise?
ETA: I am currently quoting him in my last essay for this year! Shh!
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SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
(((((((((((((((( Sprocket. ))))))))))))))))
I skirted around him and used a better quote from Eric Hobsbawm.
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