Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Wilf]

For the European elections that probably could be some mileage in being very soft Brexit / 2nd ref. Those voters who bother to turn up are going to vote solely on the ongoing Brexit process and the outcome they want. In isolation it probably wouldn't be a bad tactic, however this isn't a vacuum and for the wider picture it could be a very dangerous tactic for Labour.

Exactly as you say, there may be a logic whereby Labour came out as a soft, even anti-brexit, 2nd ref party. It might work if Labour then squeezed the libdems, greens and chuks. And then it might gain then a few seats in certain areas more than it would lose them elsewhere. That could be a short term strategy as you say, though it would be hard to see Labour becoming the leaders/figureheads for either leave or remain, given how they've managed to avoid anything definitive for the last 2 years. But as you also say, it would both a dangerous and counter productive strategy in the long run. Certainly in terms of Labour ever trying to reengage the working class voters lost in 2016 (and over a longer period).

 

[danny la rouge]

Does Urban recommend I don't vote Labour at the Euros ?

I don’t think Urban has a collective position on this.

I suppose I’d ask what it is you hope to achieve. I won’t be voting Labour at the Euros, but I probably won’t be voting at all. But you should do whatever you think useful to your ends.

 

[mojo pixy]

HELLO, EVERYBODY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

there was a vote. everybody was supposed to vote for somebody, but somebody said everybody was cunty, so in the end nobody voted for anybody, and when anybody complained about that, nobody tried to help.

 

[Brainaddict]

'Don't throw migrants under the bus' posters in London Rogue anti-Brexit posters pop up across London

The argument that leaving the EU will somehow reduce the UK's complicity in (and actual) violence against people entering Europe has never held much water for me, so this is still one of the best anti-brexit arguments in my book.

 

[andysays]

I don’t think Urban has a collective position on this.

I suppose I’d ask what it is you hope to achieve. I won’t be voting Labour at the Euros, but I probably won’t be voting at all. But you should do whatever you think useful to your ends.

Your membership of the monothought clique is suspended pending investigation...

 

[SpackleFrog]

'Don't throw migrants under the bus' posters in London Rogue anti-Brexit posters pop up across London

The argument that leaving the EU will somehow reduce the UK's complicity in (and actual) violence against people entering Europe has never held much water for me, so this is still one of the best anti-brexit arguments in my book.

Up against plenty of stiff competition there.

 

[danny la rouge]

Your membership of the monothought clique is suspended pending investigation...

Good. I didn’t apply for membership!

 

[Wilf]

Your membership of the monothought clique is suspended pending investigation...

If this monthought clique could get a bit of democratic centralism, unity of purpose and learn to march in step, We'd be unstoppable.

 

[Wilf]

Good. I didn’t apply for membership!

It's like Catholicism - 'soon as yer warm'.

 

[danny la rouge]

It's like Catholicism - 'soon as yer warm'.

I have a certificate of debaptism. I realise the Catholic Church doesn’t recognise it, but at the time I enjoyed obtaining it.

 

[belboid]

I have a certificate of debaptism. I realise the Catholic Church doesn’t recognise it, but at the time I enjoyed obtaining it.

I wrote to the pope, JP1 iirr, asking to be excommunicated.

As he never replied, I assume I was successful.

 

[andysays]

I have a certificate of debaptism. I realise the Catholic Church doesn’t recognise it, but at the time I enjoyed obtaining it.

Where did you get that from?

I had to obtain a certificate of baptism before I got married recently, which meant tracking down the church I was originally baptised in and applying to them.

But who issues certificates of debaptism?

 

[danny la rouge]

I wrote to the pope, JP1 iirr, asking to be excommunicated.

As he never replied, I assume I was successful.

 

[danny la rouge]

Where did you get that from?

I had to obtain a certificate of baptism before I got married recently, which meant tracking down the church I was originally baptised in and applying to them.

But who issues certificates of debaptism?

I think it was a link the National Secular Society had several years ago. Or possibly the Freethinker. I’d need to check.

 

[Wilf]

I wrote to the pope, JP1 iirr, asking to be excommunicated.

As he never replied, I assume I was successful.

It's still on his/her desk.

 

[danny la rouge]

I think it was a link the National Secular Society had several years ago. Or possibly the Freethinker. I’d need to check.

It was NSS.

This was the link, but long gone:

https://www.secularism.org.uk/uploads/debaptism.pdf

Wayback machine might help?

 

[Wilf]

We've got 2 popes at the moment iirc, the Argentinian feller and the one who retired but fills in for the holidays. Could get a debaptism off one but not the other. Schrodinger's Debaptism.

 

[Steel Icarus]

We've got 2 popes at the moment iirc, the Argentinian feller and the one who retired but fills in for the holidays. Could get a debaptism off one but not the other. Schrodinger's Debaptism.

Which is the one that shits in the woods?

 

[andysays]

It was NSS.

This was the link, but long gone:

https://www.secularism.org.uk/uploads/debaptism.pdf

Wayback machine might help?

I was just curious, wasn't thinking of applying for one myself

 

[editor]

Wanker gets his comeuppance

Brexiteer who sent death threats and racist messages to MPs jailed

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Wanker gets his comeuppance

Brexiteer who sent death threats and racist messages to MPs jailed

Quite right, but is it really relevant to the brexit thread? On the day after the indie vote in Scotland there was a bit of violent shite happening in Glasgow which some of my mates were unfortunately caught up in, and many(though maybe not most) of us Yes voters were trying to argue against those suggesting it was it was as No/Yes clash or “no voters rioting” rather than the usual fascist cunts making hay- “no voter” hardly the most relevant descriptor is what I’m saying ... to see people south of the border endulging in the same sort of point scoring bs really fucks me off, been there on the other side of it. Don’t do this. It really doesn’t help any of us, just divides.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty


"A spokesperson for Clarence House said at a press conference this morning that the Prince’s family has deep and historical connections with Ireland going back over 800-years.


"These connections began with the humanitarian aid scheme known as the Plantation of Ulster followed by the appointment of a goodwill ambassador, Oliver Cromwell and eventually the sending of the Black and Tan peacekeeping troops in March 1920.

"The spokesperson added that the Prince is Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment who played such a valuable hearts and minds role in the north of the island during the seventies"

 

[gosub]

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty


"A spokesperson for Clarence House said at a press conference this morning that the Prince’s family has deep and historical connections with Ireland going back over 800-years.


"These connections began with the humanitarian aid scheme known as the Plantation of Ulster followed by the appointment of a goodwill ambassador, Oliver Cromwell and eventually the sending of the Black and Tan peacekeeping troops in March 1920.

"The spokesperson added that the Prince is Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment who played such a valuable hearts and minds role in the north of the island during the seventies"

Makes a change from the Queen is German don't you know

 

[SpackleFrog]

Makes a change from the Queen is German don't you know

But not much of a change.

 

[Pickman's model]

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty

Prince Charles applies for Irish Passport in light of Brexit Uncertainty


"A spokesperson for Clarence House said at a press conference this morning that the Prince’s family has deep and historical connections with Ireland going back over 800-years.


"These connections began with the humanitarian aid scheme known as the Plantation of Ulster followed by the appointment of a goodwill ambassador, Oliver Cromwell and eventually the sending of the Black and Tan peacekeeping troops in March 1920.

"The spokesperson added that the Prince is Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment who played such a valuable hearts and minds role in the north of the island during the seventies"

a child of a greek citizen automatically acquires greek nationality at birth

 

[gosub]

But not much of a change.

The Greek connection studiously avoided as usual


Opps didn't see post above

 

[Baronage-Phase]

a child of a greek citizen automatically acquires greek nationality at birth

It is a satirical website.....
obviously if it were true Charles would rather live here in summer and in Greece for the winter.

ETA

 

[Pickman's model]

It is a satirical website.....
obviously if it were true Charles would rather live here in summer and in Greece for the winter.

ETA

as it is he may yet get to live in splendid isolation on wales head all year round

 

[DotCommunist]

We've got 2 popes at the moment iirc, the Argentinian feller and the one who retired but fills in for the holidays. Could get a debaptism off one but not the other. Schrodinger's Debaptism.

4 popes, counting the coptic and orthodox. Presumably the coptic and orthodox popes can only excomm you from orthodoxy or coptishness respectively? More research is needed.

 

[Poi E]

as it is he may yet get to live in splendid isolation on wales head all year round

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Tussock grass! Great for bedding.