Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[SpineyNorman]

Whoever coined the term lexit needs to be shot in the face.

 

[danny la rouge]

What will be done about Labour MP's who refuse to support a second referendum?"

“Who will rid us of these turbulent leavers”?

 

[rekil]

Whoever coined the term lexit needs to be shot in the face.

The earliest mention I could find was by OJ in the guardian in July 2015.

The more leftwing opponents of the EU come out, the more momentum will gather pace and gain critical mass. For those of us on the left who have always been critical of the EU, it has felt like a lonely crusade. But left support for withdrawal – “Lexit”, if you like – is not new.

I'd hesitate to green light this mission. It'd be very poor optics.

 

[gentlegreen]

Whoever coined the term lexit needs to be shot in the face.

Whoever came up with "Brexit" needs to be shot in the face - ditto "brexiteer".

 

[Ranbay]

 

[butchersapron]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

 

[Ranbay]

It's missing the kid flicking the V's if it had that i would put it on my wall.

 

[Pickman's model]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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donald tusk looks so different in drag

 

[Pickman's model]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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oh and about 18 kids seem to be missing

 

[chilango]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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Sexist and racist, no?

 

[CRI]

I'm not getting all the pant-wetting about Labour now supporting a 2nd referendum. Bit too little, too late, surely. Would have to pass a vote in Parliament, and that's by no means certain. Even so, it's not in the gift of May, Corbyn or the UK Parliament to decide whether Article 50 gets extended beyond 29th March. That's up to the EU27, and it's perfectly understandable if they say Fuck Off in every language spoken within the EU, after how the UK has screwed the rest of the EU around for the past 2 1/2 years or so.

Even if despite all that, by some miracle, there is a "People's Vote." What question goes on the ballot? Who gets to vote on it? Will non-resident UK citizens get a chance this time? How about EU27 citizens who are permanently resident in the UK? An since fuck all has been done about the corruption in the 2016 referendum, whose to say it won't be the same again? The mysterious "Britain's Future" group is already spending £50K per week on Facebook alone with highly targeted pro-leave messaging. No one seems to know who they are or where their money comes from, and it's surely not just from the "Donate" button on their flimsy website.

Nope, I think we're still fucked.

 

[Ranbay]

anyone got photo shop? i can only afford paint.

 

[gentlegreen]

I've got access to Photoshop and pretty well every other design tool, but I can't even do in it what I can do with paint.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nope, I think we're still fucked.

you're taking the wee

 

[gentlegreen]

The bottom line is hardly anyone on the official "leave" side really wanted the answer to be "leave" - it's a gravy train for people like Farage.



The look on his face the morning after when either he was now out of a job (or several), and/or would have to deliver something for which he had no plan ...

Watch: Brexit lies unravel as Nigel Farage calls £350m a week promise to NHS "a mistake"

 

[ska invita]

I'm not getting all the pant-wetting about Labour now supporting a 2nd referendum. Bit too little, too late, surely. Would have to pass a vote in Parliament, and that's by no means certain.

Not too little too late, the opposite. It wouldve got shot down even further if it was brought to the table earlier. In a way Mays running down the clock gives it the best chance it would ever have of passing

 

[butchersapron]

The bottom line is hardly anyone on the official "leave" side really wanted the answer to be "leave" - it's a gravy train for people like Farage.

How then do you explain polls consistently showing that the overwhelming majority of the 17.5 million people who voted to leave still wanting to leave?

 

[Pickman's model]

How then do you explain polls consistently showing that the overwhelming majority of the 17.5 million people who voted to leave still wanting to leave?

i think he's just talking about the politicians

 

[gentlegreen]

How then do you explain polls consistently showing that the overwhelming majority of the 17.5 million people who voted to leave still wanting to leave?

I mean the people who organised it, not the millions of clueless voters.

 

[butchersapron]

I mean the people who organised it, not the millions of clueless voters.

The people who organised it supported remain.

 

[hot air baboon]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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don't fall for it kids !

 

[gentlegreen]

The people who organised it supported remain.

Well that too ... most of 'em - except headbangers like Mogg.

 

[brogdale]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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Brecht's Mother Courage eventually lost all her children; just saying.

 

[gentlegreen]

Brecht's Mother Courage eventually lost all her children; just saying.

So, for an illiterate like me, what's the literary antithesis of Brecht ?

 

[DownwardDog]

So, for an illiterate like me, what's the literary antithesis of Brecht ?

Leanne Battersby.

 

[Pickman's model]

So, for an illiterate like me, what's the literary antithesis of Brecht ?

unreadable

 

[gentlegreen]

I confess my Brechtian knowledge doesn't go much further than the Doors' "One more Whisky Bar", but I'm familiar with the pre-war Germany zeitgeist ..

 

[CRI]

Not too little too late, the opposite. It wouldve got shot down even further if it was brought to the table earlier. In a way Mays running down the clock gives it the best chance it would ever have of passing

I don't share your optimism I'm afraid, and increasingly, I think the end game for both parties is a "no deal" or the hardest Brexit possible, for their own reasons.

What I meant by too little, too late was that Labour missed too many opportunities, too long ago. Calling on the PM to invoke Article 50 asap after a referendum that went narrowly to Leave confirmed the suspicions of many that the Labour leadership were never really behind the remain campaign at all. And, at that stage, neither the Tories or Labour had even a whiff of a plan for managing the leave process. (To be fair, two years later, they still don't have one!) When shit started to hit the fan about "irregularities" in the Leave campaign, with funding/backing linked to the same far-right folk who helped make Trump the US president, you'd have thought Labour would have said, "hold on a minute," and pushed for a robust investigation before any further steps. But, they were remarkably quiet about the illegality and corruption.

If Labour had run on a platform to Remain, or have a second, "clean and clear" referendum on leaving the EU, they'd have won the last GE by a long shot against the most unpopular Tory government in decades. The thought of an unholy alliance between the Tories and far-right DUP to cling to power would have stayed the stuff of nightmares. Labour seemed loyal only to their supporters who voted out, whether or not they were duped and even in the face of mounting evidence that they and the poorest folk were set to suffer the most from any form of "Leave". Oh, and they haven't given two shits about the impact of Brexit on Ireland, and clearly they think Scotland can fuck off as well, since there seems no bother that even die hard "Better Together" folks are starting to throw their lot behind Independence is a better option than following the rest of the UK over the cliff.

 

[brogdale]

So, for an illiterate like me, what's the literary antithesis of Brecht ?

You're not illiterate, are you?

I've previously posted the famous extract from Brecht's 1953 anti-statist polemical poem Die Lösung...

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers' Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

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Change the date to six days later and a couple of minor details and it might be worth presenting to Corbyn today.

 

[gentlegreen]

You're not illiterate, are you?

I got ungraded in my English lit O Level and failed English - and only scraped it when I retook it.