Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[brogdale]

I got ungraded in my English lit O Level and failed English - and only scraped it when I retook it.

But you understand what the word illiteracy means?

 

[gentlegreen]

But you understand what the word illiteracy means?

I meant it in the sense of "literature" rather than "language"..
perhaps I should have used a qualifier ...

 

[CRI]

You couldn't make it up, example #416

No-deal Brexit panic after ministers realise the UK doesn't have the right pallets for exporting to the EU

DEFRA last week confirmed to industry leaders that the United Kingdom will not have even close to enough EU-approved pallets for companies to use for exporting to the EU after a potential no-deal exit. This means that UK companies would be in competition for a small number of pallets which meet EU rules, while those that missed out would be forced to wait for new pallets, which could take weeks to be ready.

Affected industry figures who were scheduled for talks with the government said they were baffled as to why it took ministers so long to realise the dearth of pallets, given that they are such a basic feature of cross-border trade.One business figure told BI: "The point of transition was that it provided the two years we needed to get ready. Now we are trying to get ready in a few weeks. What sort of lunatic would do that?"

 

[brogdale]

I meant it in the sense of "literature" rather than "language"

Best we get back OT?

 

[Pickman's model]

Best we get back OT?

that means On Topic, gentlegreen

 

[rekil]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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It looks like Viz's 'Euro School'.

 

[kabbes]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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What’s she done with her other 16 children?

 

[butchersapron]

What’s she done with her other 16 children?

Obv the shit ones don't count. I have a follow up pic, just waiting for a few more responses.

 

[mojo pixy]

that means On Topic, gentlegreen

Operating Thetan - Wikipedia

EtA, I love how Germany and the Netherlands are like best mates in that picture. Total historical accuracy.

 

[killer b]

What’s she done with her other 16 children?

she ate them.

 

[kabbes]

she ate them.

I think she’s put them to work picking fruit and cleaning cars.

 

[Teaboy]

Its more than a bit weird and she clearly doesn't know many Eastern European flags. I reckon she probably lives near me, we seem to have a lot of that type living round here. Several homes have EU flags up and there is even one flying above our council offices.

 

[butchersapron]

Right as i failed entirely to entice any remainers into defending that cartoon i may as well post the follow up i had prepared:

 

[danny la rouge]

A Judéo-Yank trap.

 

[brogdale]

W

Right as i failed to entice any remainers into defending that cartoon i may as well post the follow up i had prepared:

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Well, that's shut everyone up, Butchers!

 

[mojo pixy]

Right as i failed entirely to entice any remainers into defending that cartoon i may as well post the follow up i had prepared:

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Ah, that was it. The picture you posted rang a bell and now I remember what the bell was. I saw this postcard once before, when I studied Vichy France.

I wonder if La Dunbar realises? Or if she would care if she did?

EtA, found this, a re-do from last year. Look at the ''trap box'' now apparently...

 

[gentlegreen]

Is that image widely known to Brighton art school graduates ?
Spooky though ...

Not quite as obvious as this one ...



/Godwins - EOT

 

[butchersapron]

Ah, that was it. The picture you posted rang a bell and now I remember what the bell was. I saw this postcard once before, when I studied Vichy France.

Did you happen to do the OU module Liberation and reconstruction: France and Italy? Pretty sure that's where i first saw it - in the prepared course materials.

 

[ska invita]

I don't share your optimism I'm afraid

there was no optimism in my post, i was talking objectively

agree with you about invoking a50, but in practice it would've passed anyway even with labour dissent

 

[Santino]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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Mother Europe should be being carried off by Zeus disguised as a bull.

 

[teuchter]

i failed entirely to entice any remainers into defending that cartoon

Does that surprise you?

 

[gentlegreen]

Perhaps she was trying to be "edgy" in reclaiming / subverting it - replacing la mère poule with something less French ...

 

[Mr Moose]

I don't share your optimism I'm afraid, and increasingly, I think the end game for both parties is a "no deal" or the hardest Brexit possible, for their own reasons.

What I meant by too little, too late was that Labour missed too many opportunities, too long ago. Calling on the PM to invoke Article 50 asap after a referendum that went narrowly to Leave confirmed the suspicions of many that the Labour leadership were never really behind the remain campaign at all. And, at that stage, neither the Tories or Labour had even a whiff of a plan for managing the leave process. (To be fair, two years later, they still don't have one!) When shit started to hit the fan about "irregularities" in the Leave campaign, with funding/backing linked to the same far-right folk who helped make Trump the US president, you'd have thought Labour would have said, "hold on a minute," and pushed for a robust investigation before any further steps. But, they were remarkably quiet about the illegality and corruption.

If Labour had run on a platform to Remain, or have a second, "clean and clear" referendum on leaving the EU, they'd have won the last GE by a long shot against the most unpopular Tory government in decades. The thought of an unholy alliance between the Tories and far-right DUP to cling to power would have stayed the stuff of nightmares. Labour seemed loyal only to their supporters who voted out, whether or not they were duped and even in the face of mounting evidence that they and the poorest folk were set to suffer the most from any form of "Leave". Oh, and they haven't given two shits about the impact of Brexit on Ireland, and clearly they think Scotland can fuck off as well, since there seems no bother that even die hard "Better Together" folks are starting to throw their lot behind Independence is a better option than following the rest of the UK over the cliff.

Where would the Labour votes have come from to win on a Remain or second ref platform? How would they have been enough to replace what they would have lost?

 

[Pickman's model]

efta's reached a deal on citizens' rights with the uk

 

[Wilf]

I think May is just about to speak in the commons on her latest contortions. However it seems to me she's moving towards allowing votes against no deal and also in favour of extensions. Probably takes the wind out of Labour's sails just at the point they finally come round to 2nd ref? However the scheduling of all these votes could make things much more complex.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Whose ready for a vomit? This is by middle class parents fav polly dunbar and is from a new book “Drawing Europe Together: Illustrators against Brexit”. This would surely make even the hardest remainer feel a little queasy?

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its is exactly the same as a 19th century cartoon where Queen victoria is gathering all the nations of her empire (depicted as children) into her embrace but ungrateful ireland is sulkily rejecting her benevolence. (annoyingly i cant find it on the internet - i have it in a book about anti-irish racism)

 

[butchersapron]

Corbyn is really pushing the i hob-nobbed with the EU neo-liberal monsters line and they told me just what i wanted to hear line. Is he really that naive?

 

[killer b]

Doubt it. It's all just positioning atm.

 

[butchersapron]

Now he wants a referendum on may's deal if it passes. Quite addictive these PR demands for referendums premised on situations that won't exist aren't they?

 

[butchersapron]

Doubt it. It's all just positioning atm.

Seen the EU bamboozle and flatter into stupidity people like him many many times over the last 3 decades.