Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[danny la rouge]

More from non-event universe: Laura Kuenssberg says there are 2 more letters in ... and then says there aren't:
Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) on Twitter

 

[teqniq]

Who is she trying to convince, herself?

 

[danny la rouge]

Who is she trying to convince, herself?

Sorry. That was me translating her actual tweets. (Especially “we hear” and “v happy to clarify”).

Her actual tweets:

 

[teqniq]

 

[Sprocket.]

Sorry. That was me translating her actual tweets. (Especially “we hear” and “v happy to clarify”).

Her actual tweets:


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Yours are much more succinct.

 

[teqniq]

If this is anything to go by it might not be so hard to make a good guess at where some of the money that funds the Taxpayers alliance comes from.

Matthew and Sarah Elliott: How a UK Power Couple Links US Libertarians and Fossil Fuel Lobbyists to Brexit

 

[existentialist]

because an extension will not make one crap of difference, it's done nothing in 2 and a half yrs, so just get the F on with it or bail out

Says the boy who doesn't think it's funny to laugh at his own country.

 

[Pickman's model]

Says the boy who doesn't think it's funny to laugh at his own country.

If you'd ever heard his laugh you'd think it hilarious

 

[SpackleFrog]

Someone will say liberal democracy next. That is another delusion. One work colleague actually said to me the other day, ‘if they don’t see Bregsit through I will never vote again!’
It took me ten minutes to stop laughing, in fact a little bit of wee came out.

You're right, it is a delusion of sorts, though it's not the kindest way to put it. A delusion, or more kindly a belief, that many people share, that we live in a democratic system where our voices matter. But I'm not sure that laughing at your fellow worker as they begin to question that belief is particularly helpful?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

You're right, it is a delusion of sorts, though it's not the kindest way to put it. A delusion, or more kindly a belief, that many people share, that we live in a democratic system where our voices matter. But I'm not sure that laughing at your fellow worker as they begin to question that belief is particularly helpful?

It’s hardly clear just from that statement this was the start of them questioning the belief or that they ever truly held it in the first place. Some of us are just less articulate than others. And it really just sounded like an expression of exasperation.

 

[SpackleFrog]

It’s hardly clear just from that statement this was the start of them questioning the belief or that they ever truly held it in the first place. Some of us are just less articulate than others. And it really just sounded like an expression of exasperation.

Fair, sorry I read it as someone becoming disillusioned with our democracy.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fair, sorry I read it as someone becoming disillusioned with our democracy.

I'll wait till we have a democracy before becoming disillusioned with it

 

[AnandLeo]

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That’s much better, if you can rephrase it briefly, such as reformed, restructured or downsized.

 

[Badgers]

 

[danny la rouge]

So he hasn't. Is he one of the 26 "certainties" counted?

 

[danny la rouge]

No, he isn't. Who has written no confidence letters?

 

[butchersapron]

Don't get this - his card is marked whatever. So write the damn thing. Or is this a more telling failure?

 

[danny la rouge]

Don't get this - his card is marked whatever. So write the damn thing. Or is this a more telling failure?

It’s baffling.

 

[brogdale]

Don't get this - his card is marked whatever. So write the damn thing. Or is this a more telling failure?

He's being a 'tory rebel', innit?

 

[butchersapron]

There is s spectre haunting the ERG...

 

[killer b]

They've shot their bolt, totally fucked it. But the political lobby seem to be still lapping up each new ream of bullshit. Incredible really.

 

[Winot]

It’s really really funny.

 

[butchersapron]

They've shot their bolt, totally fucked it. But the political lobby seem to be still lapping up each new ream of bullshit. Incredible really.

Not just the lobby, it's been slopping over the sides here for near a week now too.

 

[killer b]

You're right - it isn't incredible that they're breathlessly reporting it on reflection: the role of the lobby to influence rather than report on politics has been laid totally bare the last few years. What's incredible is that anyone takes the breathless reports seriously anymore.

 

[Wilf]

The erg/hard brexit lot certainly had the potential numbers, in that well over 48 have signed letters before or have claimed expenses for their meetings (they don't have anything as vulgar as members). A few of these are ministers, which is why they are not submitting letters but yes, what a fucking useless rebellion. Part of the story is surely how inept these people are at putting together coalitions, keeping people on side etc.

 

[brogdale]

The erg/hard brexit lot certainly had the potential numbers, in that well over 48 have signed letters before or have claimed expenses for their meetings (they don't have anything as vulgar as members). A few of these are ministers, which is why they are not submitting letters but yes, what a fucking useless rebellion. Part of the story is surely how inept these people are at putting together coalitions, keeping people on side etc.

That presupposes that we are talking about individuals with principles other than their own instinct for self-preservation and who suspend their propensity for psychopathic lying when dealing with each other.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Part of the story is surely how inept these people are at putting together coalitions, keeping people on side etc.

Not surpising really, given the 'fuck everyone who isn't me' politics of the people involved.

 

[Kaka Tim]

i think the hard core ERG lot read the widespread dismay at the mays deal and presumed that that would translate into a rebellion - so then turned around when they were halfway across no mans land to find that nobody had followed them.
twats - they should have waited until may's deal was voted down - all they've done is shown themselves up as the incompetent, obsessive freaks that they are and actually strengthened may's position.
I guess "this deal is utterly shit!" does not mean "lets tell the EU go fuck themselves and charge off the cliff with Rees Mogg leading the way".
Full on no deal brexit is very much a fringe position amongst tory MPs when it comes to the crunch - as opposed to puffed up posturing and playing to the gammon gallery.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Latest noises now seem to be backtracking to say that there will be enough letters after the vote. Well no shit. If the government loses the vote, May's toast. We all know that. May knows that.

 

[Pickman's model]

The erg/hard brexit lot certainly had the potential numbers, in that well over 48 have signed letters before or have claimed expenses for their meetings (they don't have anything as vulgar as members). A few of these are ministers, which is why they are not submitting letters but yes, what a fucking useless rebellion. Part of the story is surely how inept these people are at putting together coalitions, keeping people on side etc.

the story is that they're good at putting together coalitions but bloody awful at seizing the time. timing, as any comedian will tell you, is everything. now they've shored up the previously unshoreable.