Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Ranbay]

Nipped out to buy a freezer, 4 pages... FFS

 

[Pickman's model]

Rehman Chishti resigned
Sheryll Murray another no confidence

storm downing street under the slogan 'one out - all out'

 

[Pickman's model]

Nipped out to buy a freezer, 4 pages... FFS

pleased to hear that the manual's so much shorter than you expected.

 

[Sasaferrato]

the point being, you didn't see people quibbling about oh noes how will they pay for nationalising the coal? and what's all this about the nhs? remind me pls, who won the 1945 election?

Which party sent reps out to the disgruntled troops awaiting demob in Germany and Austria, promising that if they were elected the process would be accelerated? Answer, the same party that lost the next election, thereby proving that you can fool some of the people...

 

[Sasaferrato]

Rehman Chishti resigned
Sheryll Murray another no confidence

And so it begins...

 

[andysays]

And so it begins...

I think it began a while ago.

Do keep up...

 

[belboid]

Rehman Chishti resigned
Sheryll Murray another no confidence

who and who?

 

[Pickman's model]

Which party sent reps out to the disgruntled troops awaiting demob in Germany and Austria, promising that if they were elected the process would be accelerated? Answer, the same party that lost the next election, thereby proving that you can fool some of the people...

let me give you a little lesson in counting

1: 1945

2: 1950

do you see how the labour party's vote did not decline, as you suggested, but rather went up by more than 1.2 million? perhaps you could also explain how a party with a majority of five seats lost the election

 

[Wilf]

EXCLUSIVE:

Michael Gove will ONLY become Theresa May's Brexit Secretary if he can renegotiate her deal and the November 25 EU summit is scrapped.

And he is STILL weighing up whether to quit Cabinet...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/15/michael-gove-offered-brexit-secretary-job/ …

 

[Poi E]

Fuck. That is like 'would you rather be shot or hanged?'.

I tipped JRM a long time back, and still feel that that is likely (God help us.)

Just watched him on the steps of Parliament. I think you may be right.

 

[Badgers]

who and who?

I don't care. Just happy to see the overall numbers creeping up

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[SpookyFrank]

Which party sent reps out to the disgruntled troops awaiting demob in Germany and Austria, promising that if they were elected the process would be accelerated? Answer, the same party that lost the next election, thereby proving that you can fool some of the people...

Doesn't really prove anything though does it. Proves that not all of the UK electorate was in the army at the time, but we already knew that.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think it began a while ago.

Do keep up...

I think he only just got the telegram about the death of Franz Ferdinand.

 

[Sasaferrato]

let me give you a little lesson in counting

1: 1945
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2: 1950
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do you see how the labour party's vote did not decline, as you suggested, but rather went up by more than 1.2 million? perhaps you could also explain how a party with a majority of five seats lost the election

Apologies, it was the election after, in 1951. Churchill was PM in 1952 when I was born.

United Kingdom general election, 1951

← 1950 25 October 1951 1955 →
← outgoing members
elected members →
All 625 seats in the House of Commons
313 seats needed for a majority
Opinion polls
Turnout 82.6%,

1.3%

Leader Winston Churchill Clement Attlee Clement Davies
Party Conservative Labour Liberal
Leader since 9 October 1940 25 October 1935 2 August 1945
Leader's seat Woodford Walthamstow West Montgomeryshire
Last election 298 seats, 43.4% 315 seats, 46.1% 9 seats, 9.1%
Seats won 321 295 6
Seat change

23

20

3
Popular vote 13,717,851 13,948,385 730,546
Percentage 48.0% 48.8% 2.5%
Swing

4.6%

2.7%

6.6%

Colours denote the winning party—as shown in § Results
Prime Minister before election
Clement Attlee
Labour

Appointed Prime Minister
Winston Churchill
Conservative

The 1951 United Kingdom general election was held twenty months after the 1950 general election, which the Labour Party had won with a slim majority of just five seats. The Labour government called a snap election for Thursday 25 October 1951 hoping to increase their parliamentary majority. However, despite winning the popular vote, Labour were defeated by the Conservative Party who had won the most seats. This election marked the beginning of the Labour Party's thirteen-year spell in opposition, and the return of Winston Churchill as Prime Minister. Also, this was the final general election to be held with George VI as monarch; as he died the following year on 6 February, and was succeeded by his daughter, Elizabeth II.

 

[Wilf]

The new strategy:

 

[Pickman's model]

Doesn't really prove anything though does it. Proves that not all of the UK electorate was in the army at the time, but we already knew that.

not to mention that research reveals the labour party won the 1950 general election. sasaferrato's claim holed below the waterline

 

[Badgers]

A new referendum on Brexit should be held if Theresa May is replaced as prime minister and no general election is called, says Wales's First Minister. Carwyn Jones has so far said he would only support a new Brexit vote if a general election were held and the result failed to break the deadlock.

 

[Pickman's model]

Apologies, it was the election after, in 1951. Churchill was PM in 1952 when I was born.

you're not blaming that on the troops formerly in austria and germany are you?

 

[Badgers]

 

[tim]

Can you think of anything with 'people's...' in front of it that isn't patronising as fuck? If it was really the people as a whole doing something, then everyone would know this already and you wouldn't need 'people' in the title of the thing. It's like putting 'water' in the name of a boating event, if you're doing it properly then the presence of water should at the very least be strongly implied.

Come out and say 'the people fucked up' if that's what you believe. If the problem first time round was people lying, twisting facts, presenting opinion as fact, lying about their motivations and generally communicating with the public in a disrespectful way, then the solution is unlikely to require more of the same.

The "People's Will" didn't patronise the Tsarist elites. They assasinated them.

Narodnaya Volya - Wikipedia

 

[Pickman's model]

if the tories had got their act together they'd have timed one of the resignations to go live while may was speaking

#brokentories

 

[Pickman's model]

Can you think of anything with 'people's...' in front of it that isn't patronising as fuck? If it was really the people as a whole doing something, then everyone would know this already and you wouldn't need 'people' in the title of the thing. It's like putting 'water' in the name of a boating event, if you're doing it properly then the presence of water should at the very least be strongly implied.

Come out and say 'the people fucked up' if that's what you believe. If the problem first time round was people lying, twisting facts, presenting opinion as fact, lying about their motivations and generally communicating with the public in a disrespectful way, then the solution is unlikely to require more of the same.

people's palace
people's front page

 

[SpookyFrank]

you're not blaming that on the troops formerly in austria and germany are you?

Even Sas wouldn't slag off his own grandkids.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Press conference 5pm

 

[tim]

This way of thinking fucks me right off. It really does.

The “British guy”? Why is that relevant? His title and CV tells us more: Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, formerly one of the directors of Royal Dutch Shell, currently deputy chairman of Scottish Power.

So let’s try that again:

The privately educated, Oxbridge Lord and company director who wrote article 50. Yes, him.

Or more succinctly:

The perfidious Scot who wrote Article 50.

 

[Pickman's model]

Press conference 5pm

ritual suicide 1705

 

[Wilf]

Press conference 5pm

Coffee or Café? Chips of Pommes frites? Which way will she go? A national holds its breath:

 

[xenon]

Cameron should be hanged.

He was only doing his duty, manifesto...

Though I agree, but why stop there.

 

[cupid_stunt]

TBH, were I her, I would quit, take my pension, and retire to the Outer Hebrides for a few years. It's like herding cats, an impossible task.

That's called, doing a cameron.