Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

So, cabinet meets at 2.00, conscription introduced by 5.00. I'm 57 and have a bad back, so I hope I'll miss it. If not I'll pretend I'm in a reserved occupation, like webdesigner or wellness guru.

perhaps each cabinet member could be given a pistol with one bullet in it, and a glass of whisky

corbyn and co can clean up the bodies when they move in this evening

 

[DotCommunist]

I hear the EU wants an army now. As one wag put it 'nothing makes me more confident about europe than german re-armament'

So, cabinet meets at 2.00, conscription introduced by 5.00. I'm 57 and have a bad back, so I hope I'll miss it. If not I'll pretend I'm in a reserved occupation, like webdesigner or wellness guru.

I get a sweet gig in psyops and command of my own troll farm. All the pringles I can eat.

 

[Sprocket.]

perhaps each cabinet member could be given a pistol with one bullet in it, and a glass of whisky

corbyn and co can clean up the bodies when they move in this evening

Or a AK47 ‘’for when you need to kill everyone in the mother fucking room’’

 

[Pickman's model]

Or a AK47 ‘’for when you need to kill everyone in the mother fucking room’’

or someone could just throw in a grenade and lock the door

 

[Wilf]

perhaps each cabinet member could be given a pistol with one bullet in it, and a glass of whisky

corbyn and co can clean up the bodies when they move in this evening

I'm sorry Prime Minister, but now we can't import Lugers, you'll all have to beat each other to death round the cabinet table.

 

[Pickman's model]

rumours may has ordered kool-aid be served at the cabinet meeting are false, the prime minister's spokesman told the press this morning

 

[Wilf]

I hear the EU wants an army now. As one wag put it 'nothing makes me more confident about europe than german re-armament'

I get a sweet gig in psyops and command of my own troll farm. All the pringles I can eat.

'Wilson! Where's Private Walker?
- He was delayed at the Fake News factory Sir.

 

[Pickman's model]

'Wilson! Where's Private Walker?
- He was delayed at the Fake News factory Sir.

don't tell them your name, raab

 

[Wilf]

don't tell them your name, raab

 

[Ranbay]

rumours may has ordered kool-aid be served at the cabinet meeting are false, the prime minister's spokesman told the press this morning

She May change here mind.

 

[Sprocket.]

rumours may has ordered kool-aid be served at the cabinet meeting are false, the prime minister's spokesman told the press this morning

No, but Adaptil calm diffusers have been plugged in to placate the nervous dogs.

 

[MickiQ]

I went looking for that to see what you meant, but it must have changed since you saw it.

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Those are not flattering photos, Hammond looks like he has been caught shoplifting and is trying to act nonchalant, Fox looks like someone has stuck a pole up his bum.

 

[brogdale]

Loved all that "Vassal state" stuff from Johnson & the swivel-eyed fraternity yesterday...like giving a lesson in how to present the notion that the 'shared sovereignty' in the supra-state amounts to...er...some sovereignty...and now there'll be none.

#takebackcontrol

 

[SpackleFrog]

Loved all that "Vassal state" stuff from Johnson & the swivel-eyed fraternity yesterday...like giving a lesson in how to present the notion that the 'shared sovereignty' in the supra-state amounts to...er...some sovereignty...and now there'll be none.

#takebackcontrol

I was thinking that - positioning himself for a subtle Damascene conversion?

 

[SpackleFrog]

JRM and Alistair Campbell suddenly very buddy buddy over this "vassalage" question which is the tack Jo Johnson has taken to - could we yet see unity between Brexiteers and Remoaners as they discover what they really care about is getting rid of May without Corbyn coming to power?

 

[Mr Retro]

As a remainer I thought it was a good thing for that side that parliament would have the final say. As what May is apparently going to put to parliament is more or less remain I feel now I was wrong as she’s probably going to be defeated.

 

[andysays]

I was hoping we could stop talking about Brexit now. But no, Radio Scotland is having a Brexit Phone In.

I’m having a Radio Turn Off.

The first rule of Brexit Club is to talk endlessly about Brexit...

 

[Pickman's model]

As a remainer I thought it was a good thing for that side that parliament would have the final say. As what May is apparently going to put to parliament is more or less remain I feel now I was wrong as she’s probably going to be defeated.

It's not really more of less remain is it

 

[danny la rouge]

The first rule of Brexit Club is to talk endlessly about Brexit...

The mad thing is, the nerd in me is lapping up the coverage today. Even while I’m fed up with it.

 

[DotCommunist]

Labour MP's that will vote with the government:

frank fields
jess philips


more?

 

[Kaka Tim]

The mad thing is, the nerd in me is lapping up the coverage today. Even while I’m fed up with it.

same.

"ooh - update on the guardian live feed - maybe someone has resigned?? - oh no - its a procedural question from PMQs - ooh.. another update !! " heroin for newsnerds.

 

[brogdale]

The mad thing is, the nerd in me is lapping up the coverage today. Even while I’m fed up with it.

Stockholm syndrome Danny!

 

[brogdale]

Labour MP's that will vote with the government:

frank fields
jess philips


more?

La Flint.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

same.

"ooh - update on the guardian live feed - maybe someone has resigned?? - oh no - its a procedural question from PMQs - ooh.. another update !! " heroin for newsnerds.

All today needs is for Robert Mueller to indict some Trump family members...

 

[ska invita]

This is interesting

The leaders of the four main opposition parties in Westminster – Jeremy Corbyn for Labour, Vince Cable for the Lib Dems, Ian Blackford for the SNP and Liz Saville Roberts for Plaid Cymru – have written to the prime minister demanding a “truly meaningful vote”. Here’s the full text of their letter:

We are writing to you with regard to an issue of the utmost importance: That is to ensure that Parliament has a truly meaningful vote on any Brexit withdrawal agreement.


Recent interventions from government ministers have suggested that you and your government may seek to limit or constrain the process on the final vote, in an attempt to muzzle Parliament. We want to be clear that this would be wholly unacceptable.

In particular, paragraph six of the government’s memorandum on the issue stated that: “Amendments could have the effect – whether deliberately or accidentally – of inhibiting the government’s legal ability to ratify the withdrawal agreement”.

We believe that Parliament should be able to consider, debate and vote on amendments before a decisive vote on the substantive motion. That would give this sovereign parliament an opportunity to express its view over the terms of departure from the EU. It is unthinkable that Parliament could be silenced at such a crucial period for the country.

We recognise that it will be necessary for a business motion to be agreed by the House to govern arrangements for consideration of this motion. But the existing procedures, which include limiting debate to 90 minutes, are not appropriate. So a much more extensive business motion will be needed for this crucial issue.

As a minimum, any motion to this House must include the possibility for multiple amendments to be tabled, with the Speaker able to select multiple amendments to be taken before the main motion. While we recognise Parliament will have to approve or disapprove any agreement, it would be reckless to present this vote as take-it-or-leave-it without Parliament being able to suggest an alternative.

We, as party leaders, have championed parliamentary scrutiny and engagement throughout this process and, throughout the debate, we have had repeated assurances from across the dispatch box that MPs would be able to express their support for alternative options. Now, it seems the government has abandoned its willingness to let Parliament take back control and seems determined to limit the role of this sovereign parliament.

We believe Parliament must be allowed to express its view and hold the executive to account. This would not be possible if Parliament was unable to table, debate and consider amendments before any decision on the substantive motion.

Sounds like they're a bit nervous about just how meaningful their "meaningful" vote is.

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I know we don't know the full details but its hard to see how this deal (what we know if it) would be much different from a Labour brokered deal...I expect it passes Labours 6 tests too (though some of those tests are pretty vague..."Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?"). Any thoughts on that?

Those 6 tests

Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?
Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?
Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?
Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?
Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?

Also talking of front pages notable that the Express seem to back the deal - no BRETRAYAL!!! headline there....will be interesting to see who else falls in behind May from the harder brexit camp.

Labour MP's that will vote with the government:

frank fields
jess philips


more?

yes
eventually...

i reckon this is going to pass
eventually...

 

[philosophical]

Judging by Kate Hoey's question in PMQ's she can envisage some kind of sanctions in place to prevent Republic of Ireland fishing fleets in the waters for six miles around the UK coast in Northern Ireland.
I wonder if she has any idea how such a thing might happen in practice.

 

[Sprocket.]

La Flint.

Only if cameras are present to witness her doing so.

 

[Pickman's model]

i reckon this is going to pass
eventually...

Like any shit

 

[Wilf]

Signs of Remainiac Tories moving in May's direction.
Tory remainers 'getting cold feet' about Brexit deal rebellion

This reporting is all fluff at the moment, but my hunch is that today is the big hurdle. If she gets cabinet support the drift is likely to be in her direction afterwards. There's a logic that the more the deal looks like a customs union, the more it alienates the swivellers, but I suspect attrition and the logic of ultimately being a political party will take over.

Same time, she really is making a fist of fucking the whole thing up.

 

[ska invita]

Like any shit

i know it looks unlikely but....