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of course, but everyone knew that was not going to happen. So what else is the 'wheres corbyn?' stuff except remain tory opportunism

From the banners and placards I saw, I’d say say it wasn’t a Tory dominated march, and the chants similarly so.

But let’s say it *was* tories leading that particular charge, protesting for another vote. If so, then things really *have* changed in two years.
 
From the banners and placards I saw, I’d say say it wasn’t a Tory dominated march, and the chants similarly so.

But let’s say it *was* tories leading that particular charge, protesting for another vote. If so, then things really *have* changed in two years.

I was thinking of soubry tbf, I'm sure the march also included plenty of well meaning sound people marching for what they believe is correct and righteous, I think they are wrong but its their saturday afternoon and a-b feels good sometimes, however futile it may be it can feel like energy and thats fine. But it was helmed by absolute twats.
 
tbh it really wouldn't be that hard to design materials for a remain campaign which wasn't based around the notion that leave voters were stupid feckless racist working class people, which is how they were portrayed in e.g. the guardian during the referendum campaign. it wouldn't be hard to say 'yes, there are problems with the eu, some of them quite serious problems. but we believe the way to deal with this is to respond from within the tent rather than stand in the rain. leaving - no matter the deal - will leave us all worse off, and likely hit areas with heavy leave results much worse off than areas which voted remain. we understand the range of reasons why people wished to leave in june 2016: but we now know a lot more about things than we did then, and it's important to confirm that rather narrow result, to ensure that the greater certainty of what brexit means is what people want to go along with. 52/48's no way to decide a matter which will leave recriminations for decades and a more certain result could - should - allow us to recombine as a nation regardless of which way it goes. if it's leave, fine. if it's remain, fine. nonetheless as matters stand now, with the 2016 result, about half the country will be pissed off whichever way we jump and this will cause ructions in the future.' but i don't believe politicians of any stripe have the bollocks to say anything like that.

Well you'd think so. I think it was largely down to Cameron and his advisers that a largely negative campaign was run. Ditto you'd think that If Corbyn, Gardiner and the rest of them were ever genuinely remain they'd be arguing a strong pro-Europe case, while also addressing things like wages, employment conditions, housing as the real long term issues...
 
From the banners and placards I saw, I’d say say it wasn’t a Tory dominated march, and the chants similarly so.

But let’s say it *was* tories leading that particular charge, protesting for another vote. If so, then things really *have* changed in two years.
I'm not in bed with Tories, but if I was that would be good.
 
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Well you'd think so. I think it was largely down to Cameron and his advisers that a largely negative campaign was run. Ditto you'd think that If Corbyn, Gardiner and the rest of them were ever genuinely remain they'd be arguing a strong pro-Europe case, while also addressing things like wages, employment conditions, housing as the real long term issues...
60-40 eh? Where you living now?

This pro-business march on sat made no mention of these things.
 
From the banners and placards I saw, I’d say say it wasn’t a Tory dominated march, and the chants similarly so.

But let’s say it *was* tories leading that particular charge, protesting for another vote. If so, then things really *have* changed in two years.
They certainly have. Hello anarchist.
 
Were any of the people sneering here actually at the march? It was actually quite an impressive march and, if the reports are to be believed, it was one of the biggest marches in British history. (600-700,00) First was the Stop the War March (2 million February 2003) and the level third was March for the Alternative 400,000 (March 2011) and CND 400,000 (October 1983).

In terms of political colours most of the marchers were probably Labour voters but there was also a fair smattering from across the political spectrum. Not sure what the political effect will be, but I'm relieved that the March was a big success. I would have been concerned, for instance, if only 40,000 had turned up and I think that the proponents of Brexit would have attempted to make political capital out of it. I think its possible that politically the tide has turned against Brexit.

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