Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Starry Wisdom
A poor second to raheem.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Who Dares Wines (and Dines at the taxpayer's expense)
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
it does, but Johnson has shot his own fox by his performance as FS and his general attitude in Cabinet - he was never that popular amongst the PCP anyway, but he's probably down to the low 20's of supporters by now. Rees-Mogg is also not nearly as popular amongst the PCP as he'd have you believe, and the more scutiny his financial affairs have had have lessened the willingness of people to take a punt on him - he looks like a scandal waiting to happen, and the backlass against Johnson has also washed over him - the 'great on HIGNFY' thing has been somewhat devalued by Johnson, and it is a large part of the Moggs act...
Sajid Javid, Gavin Williamson, Gove (still), and doubtless people i've never heard of. but not yet....
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
May was never that popular among the PCP (
) either though, and with them its always the one they are told to rally around that wins. If Boris goes now he will have to stand for leader, it is his last chance.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Whilst I don't want to take away from the joy that is all these resignations, in the back of my mind this does seem like it will boil down to a leadership battle, and the hardcore brexiteers will suddenly get all shirty. A soft brexit was something I could possibly deal with, but now all these baboon's clearly want to try and stop that. Mail etc will no doubt get behind them as well meaning the majority of the can't think for themselves public will too.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The hard brexit types look to have gone for a scorched earth approach. Their way or chaos and ruination. It's all incredibly childish.
not-bono-ever
meh
It was necessary to destroy the party in order to save it mentality
I’m not sure that putting a gun to your head and say “I’ll pull the trigger unless you give me what I want” is that strong a tactic ?
Alex
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
exactly why the 'no deal is better than a bad deal' thing is obvious bullshit, and hasn't worked.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Not with this government, as the gun isn't loaded and is a banana anyway.
gosub
~#
SovietArmy
Well-Known Member
Freedom of movement will be end next year, scary and worry but what is that mean?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
In this article Fintan O'Toole argues that the best possible outcome for the UK is to get the worst of both worlds.
Not being a nationalist or patriotic kind of person myself it simply seems surreal what has happened.
The dark side of it is the maggoty underbelly of prejudice that the brexit process has revealed.
I suppose it has always been there, and maybe I ought to be grateful that the brexit process has brought the conscious or unconscious or axiomatic racists out from their hiding places.
Fintan O’Toole: Britain has gone to huge trouble to humiliate itself
Not being a nationalist or patriotic kind of person myself it simply seems surreal what has happened.
The dark side of it is the maggoty underbelly of prejudice that the brexit process has revealed.
I suppose it has always been there, and maybe I ought to be grateful that the brexit process has brought the conscious or unconscious or axiomatic racists out from their hiding places.
Fintan O’Toole: Britain has gone to huge trouble to humiliate itself
I thought they were running Syria?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Services are intangible - you don’t check for them at borders.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
From what i read, we can't have free trade without free movment, and if we go back to WTO then we need a hard boarder..... which we can't do.
So....
AnandLeo
Tipple Ripple
The results of the Brexit referendum cannot be taken literally as a democratic will of the people of the nation. It is not even legally binding. 48 per cent voted to remain, not necessarily because they all are happy with the status quo and the evolving trend of the EU regime. Because there was no choice in the referendum other than to remain or leave. The leave voters wanted UK out of Brussel’s bureaucratic clutches, incited by propaganda like, UK pays EU £350 million a week. This is obviously a well-known disingenuous fact. The truth is the UK receives about half of that money in return from EU as grants and subsidies. Funding the NHS from the money saved from BREXIT is another fallacy. The leave vote was largely a populist vote without any verification of assumptions, facts and figures. However, the ever-growing bureaucratic rules and regulations the EU is imposing on UK, and its political consolidation, are common issues of momentum for leaving EU. The populist leave voters neither considered nor were informed of the implications of Brexit on the UK industry, business, trade, financial and banking services, and cross-border issues like in Northern Ireland, now transpired after the referendum. Result of a referendum incited by fake information and ignorance should not be deemed as immutable outcome precluding mitigating adjustments.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
How do you know what people thought in the polling booth?
Doppelgänger
There's only one of me!
David Davis: In the end, there was nothing behind the swagger
I think this is a fair commentary on Davis and how he fitted into the scheme of it all
I think this is a fair commentary on Davis and how he fitted into the scheme of it all
Combustible
Well-Known Member
tl;dr referendum should be ignored because I don't like the result
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Starry Wisdom
And what's worse that post isn't even interesting
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