Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[butchersapron]

Oh god.

 

[B.I.G]

Would it surprise anyone here to learn that this poster also came here via the dulwich hamlet forum?

It would surprise me.

 

[stethoscope]

Speed of this thread all of a sudden is amazing. Seems like what we all really love about Brexit is the chance to call people we've never met names.

Like philosophical assuming anyone who votes leave is a thicko racist, without ever meeting us, you mean?

 

[philosophical]

No, it's not. I meany any substantial reading of debate before your i'm here now! entrance.

You said 'not reading anything' even putting it in italics in some kind of lame effort to emphasise your point. Now it turns out that I have at least read something but what I have read isn't good enough for you. What are you going to do, give me a reading list then set a test to see if I qualify to post?

 

[MrSpikey]

If that is what I have done you may have a point, I have not asked anybody to either state or restate their opinions.

Really?

Take my opening post, nobody so far has responded to the challenge regarding the Irish border

That does seem like you are asking people to state their opinions. Or, in many cases, restate them, as they have already been covered earlier in the thread.

You might like to read back to who started the mantra about respect and politeness, it wasn't me, but one of the hypocrites who promptly told me to fuck off.

So you don't care about respect or honesty then? Fair enough.

If you don't wish to read back that is OK by me by the way.

No shit.

 

[philosophical]

Born 1953; so any mother/father/aunt/uncle is responsible for the holocaust cos they bought a Carl Zeiss lens in 1935? What an utter shitcunt you are, people more perceptive than me told you to fuck off ages ago, they were right. Scum.

Is that the best you can come up with? You are right to say there are people more perceptive than you, and more articulate too. You are reduced to rather cliched abuse 'utter shitcunt', with a bit of effort you can do better than that surely?

 

[butchersapron]

You said 'not reading anything' even putting it in italics in some kind of lame effort to emphasise your point. Now it turns out that I have at least read something but what I have read isn't good enough for you. What are you going to do, give me a reading list then set a test to see if I qualify to post?

Given that you were replying to a post about not reading the previous posts on this thread (or, it seems any of the other long running ones on this issue) I think it's pretty clear what I was referring to you not reading. And the mad logic that led you to your inaction and defence of such self willed ignorance.

 

[Raheem]

Like philosophical assuming anyone who votes leave is a thicko racist, without ever meeting us, you mean?

Yeah, f'rexample.

 

[DotCommunist]

Like philosophical assuming anyone who votes leave is a thicko racist, without ever meeting us, you mean?

but that didn't include a swearword and had a question mark, so under the terms of politeness, no injury was done.

 

[philosophical]

Like philosophical assuming anyone who votes leave is a thicko racist, without ever meeting us, you mean?

Why don't you change tack and suggest a solution to the Irish border problem? Move the discussion on as it were.
No I have never met you, but if I had the misfortune to meet you, and discover you have voted brexit, then our encounter wouldn't last long that's for sure.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

In my first post I made no reference at all to child sexual abuse, if you think that such a reference is some kind of obscure appropriate 'parody' on a brexit thread then it is you who are the thick cunt, as you have been demonstrating regularly on this thread today.

He was asking if you were a nonce cos you claim that when you called all Brexit voters racist it was not a statement but a question, so he asked a question back to you.

You are a massive wanker though, given multiple opportunities to engage but don’t. So fuck you. And if as you claim me putting a cross in the leave box will be the last thing that goes through your mind before your die; good.

 

[teqniq]

I reckon it't a bot or a simple AI. But even if it's not those it's pretty much a troll.

 

[DotCommunist]

then our encounter wouldn't last long that's for sure.

threats of violence!

 

[philosophical]

He was asking if you were a nonce cos you claim that when you called all Brexit voters racist it was not a statement but a question, so he asked a question back to you.

You are a massive wanker though, given multiple opportunities to engage but don’t. So fuck you. And if as you claim me putting a cross in the leave box will be the last thing that goes through your mind before your die; good.

What does nonce mean? A child sex abuser?
I didn't claim that any thought of you would be the last thing that goes through my head before I die, what I said is that I would hate brexit voters like you until the day I die. I don't know you beyond you being a brexit voter and florid with your abuse, which is no surprise coming from a brexit voter actually.
I can only speak for myself of course, but I suspect there may be others that hate you too for what you have done, but rejoice, you won, now face the practical consequence of your cross in the leave box.

 

[philosophical]

Given that you were replying to a post about not reading the previous posts on this thread (or, it seems any of the other long running ones on this issue) I think it's pretty clear what I was referring to you not reading. And the mad logic that led you to your inaction and defence of such self willed ignorance.

You may think you were clear, is that why you emphasised your point with italics?
It looks to me like you are ignorant.

 

[philosophical]

threats of violence!

No I would extricate myself from the meeting. There might be a low risk of contamination.

 

[DotCommunist]

No I would extricate myself from the meeting. There might be a low risk of contamination.

I think its quite clear that you were implying more than that. Your abuse has escalated to veiled threats. For shame.

 

[philosophical]

I think its quite clear that you were implying more than that. Your abuse has escalated to veiled threats. For shame.

You may think that but you are wrong.

 

[DotCommunist]

You may think that but you are wrong.

thats steph and pickmans you've offered out now. Really a bad show.

 

[philosophical]

thats steph and pickmans you've offered out now. Really a bad show.

You are wrong, but keep posting away if it makes you happy. Your lame attempts at trying to turn tables in some way, or use irony might get you approval from your mates and keep them happy too.
My last word today is that I at least wont have to live the rest of my lifetime knowing I voted brexit, but many of you will.
Rejoice in your victory, but maybe you could hone the abuse towards other posters a bit, because a lot of what the people on here have written is frankly very dreary.

 

[DotCommunist]

last word

#lastword

 

[sealion]

My last word today is that I at least wont have to live the rest of my lifetime knowing I voted brexit

It's the least of your worries after tonights performance.

 

[teuchter]

Today's "intervention" has provided a perhaps convenient distraction from where the discussion about the irish border stuff had got to yesterday, which was something like "but can't we just not have any import tariffs at all".

 

[sealion]

You win then. Happy days.

 

[toblerone3]

This came out from an academic at Queen's University Belfast today.

 

[Riklet]

Britain has caused Ireland enough problems over the years. It doesn't seem very neighbourly.

I don't see how it's at all plausible that the EU could accept an open border between the UK and Eire. Saying it's up to the EU or Eire is not any different in effect to the UK saying "we're going to create a hard border with Ireland".

Since you've mentioned our discussion was going somewhere....

I would say leaving it up to the EU is precisely the right move. Let the Irish government and EU build a border if they want one - and show their true colours.

Since when has the British state been neighbourly anyway? And even assuming we had a progressive government then yes, they would need to playhardball with Irelands pro-EU centre-right new leader. Greece tried playing nice while negotiating with the EU and look how that went.

Neighbourly is ensuring a decent future for Ireland. What future is there when/if another Eurozone or global recession takes place and Ireland gets shafted again with another forced bailout?

I feel like your arguments assume a constant - that had remain won things would have stayed hunky dorey in Europe, Ireland, Britain etc. The same issues would be going on. There would still be dissident republicans and risks of violence and the island of Ireland would still be divided and at the mercy of bigger more powerful forces in Brussels. Possibly even more than it is currently. The EU has backed down from hardballing Spain and Italy since the Brexit vote, I know that for a fact. For them, now is the time to win liberal hearts and minds, not business as usual. But no good PR campaign is carried out just for its own sake or for meaningless popularity.

As it stands, the EU seems fully prepared to sacrifice Ireland on the altar if it means a tough hand against Britain. Whose interests are being considered by these A-E narrow options which are the only ones on the table, apparently.

Anyway, what do you think will be the implications of right of all norn Ireland peeps to have Irish passports? What do you see happening in Ireland?

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh the 'South London at this time of night' is supposed to be some kind of taxi drivers humour reference is it. Not your middle class hang up stereotyping of those of us who live here. i understand language about as well as most people, but am more careful certainly than you are when using it.
Remember it was you who suggested there were alternative ways to get a blow to the head beyond being kicked by a horse. A grenade you chucked out there, and now your precious 'norf ov ver rivver' sensibilities want to deny that there are consequences to your words. I may indeed be a sour cunt, but you are a bigger cunt by suggesting that physical violence would be an appropriate thing to happen to me.
Sleep well yourself, and dream about using language with a little more care.

Yeh. You seem to be alone in discerning any suggestion of a semblance of a threat of violence. I've said none was intended. You're calling me a liar. You can fuck off.

As is well known this is a south London based board. Yet no one else including those from south london is taking your side as no one agrees with you

Perhaps you might find other Internet sites more to your taste

 

[Pickman's model]

Since you've mentioned our discussion was going somewhere....

I would say leaving it up to the EU is precisely the right move. Let the Irish government and EU build a border if they want one - and show their true colours.

Since when has the British state been neighbourly anyway? And even assuming we had a progressive government then yes, they would need to playhardball with Irelands pro-EU centre-right new leader. Greece tried playing nice while negotiating with the EU and look how that went.

Neighbourly is ensuring a decent future for Ireland. What future is there when/if another Eurozone or global recession takes place and Ireland gets shafted again with another forced bailout?

I feel like your arguments assume a constant - that had remain won things would have stayed hunky dorey in Europe, Ireland, Britain etc. The same issues would be going on. There would still be dissident republicans and risks of violence and the island of Ireland would still be divided and at the mercy of bigger more powerful forces in Brussels. Possibly even more than it is currently. The EU has backed down from hardballing Spain and Italy since the Brexit vote, I know that for a fact. For them, now is the time to win liberal hearts and minds, not business as usual. But no good PR campaign is carried out just for its own sake or for meaningless popularity.

As it stands, the EU seems fully prepared to sacrifice Ireland on the altar if it means a tough hand against Britain. Whose interests are being considered by these A-E narrow options which are the only ones on the table, apparently.

Anyway, what do you think will be the implications of right of all norn Ireland peeps to have Irish passports? What do you see happening in Ireland?

The British state has always been neighbourly

In a neighbours from hell way

 

[Pickman's model]

Like philosophical assuming anyone who votes leave is a thicko racist, without ever meeting us, you mean?

Not to mention 52% of the population hating him, which is suggestive of a degree of paranoia

 

[Pickman's model]

I have just looked at this People Before Profit stuff, but can't see anything about the practical solutions to the Irish border or the significance of the Belfast agreement.
Perhaps you would be good enough to post a link to the practical post brexit solutions to the border issue that the People Before Profit Alliance propose.

I note Irish republicans have proposed a solution to the national question for many decades, yet you show no interest in that. Why?