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Yeh but people might still catch something from youNo I would extricate myself from the meeting. There might be a low risk of contamination.
Yeh but people might still catch something from youNo I would extricate myself from the meeting. There might be a low risk of contamination.
Yeh. So?My last word today is that I at least wont have to live the rest of my lifetime knowing I voted brexit, but many of you will.
I can imagine yer man saying that. First in one higher pitched voice, then in his normal tone."What are you doing on that bloody computer darling, come to bed. You've not even spoken to your son all evening".
"Just having the last word now, there's loads of them. I've definitely won this though."
And more welcoming, a distraction from your smug, dishonest sneering.Today's "intervention" has provided a perhaps convenient distraction from where the discussion about the irish border stuff had got to yesterday, which was something like "but can't we just not have any import tariffs at all".
With his fascination with locked doors teuchter could become a customs officialAnd more welcoming, a distraction from your smug, dishonest sneering.
"Which was something like".... You're twisting peoples words again. You really cant help yourself can you.. Its a rhetorical style that only causes trouble and gets in the way of any informative, progressive discussions.Today's "intervention" has provided a perhaps convenient distraction from where the discussion about the irish border stuff had got to yesterday, which was something like "but can't we just not have any import tariffs at all".
Giving it a rest would mean his ceasing posting as it's core to his posts"Which was something like".... You're twisting peoples words again. You really cant help yourself can you.. Its a rhetorical style that only causes trouble and gets in the way of any informative, progressive discussions.
Give it a rest ffs
You are missing out a lot. It is the UK that voted brexit to regain control of its borders not the Irish or the EU. Or maybe you think it wasn't about 'taking back control'.Since you've mentioned our discussion was going somewhere....
I would say leaving it up to the EU is precisely the right move. Let the Irish government and EU build a border if they want one - and show their true colours.
Since when has the British state been neighbourly anyway? And even assuming we had a progressive government then yes, they would need to playhardball with Irelands pro-EU centre-right new leader. Greece tried playing nice while negotiating with the EU and look how that went.
Neighbourly is ensuring a decent future for Ireland. What future is there when/if another Eurozone or global recession takes place and Ireland gets shafted again with another forced bailout?
I feel like your arguments assume a constant - that had remain won things would have stayed hunky dorey in Europe, Ireland, Britain etc. The same issues would be going on. There would still be dissident republicans and risks of violence and the island of Ireland would still be divided and at the mercy of bigger more powerful forces in Brussels. Possibly even more than it is currently. The EU has backed down from hardballing Spain and Italy since the Brexit vote, I know that for a fact. For them, now is the time to win liberal hearts and minds, not business as usual. But no good PR campaign is carried out just for its own sake or for meaningless popularity.
As it stands, the EU seems fully prepared to sacrifice Ireland on the altar if it means a tough hand against Britain. Whose interests are being considered by these A-E narrow options which are the only ones on the table, apparently.
Anyway, what do you think will be the implications of right of all norn Ireland peeps to have Irish passports? What do you see happening in Ireland?
You speak for everyone do you?Yeh. You seem to be alone in discerning any suggestion of a semblance of a threat of violence. I've said none was intended. You're calling me a liar. You can fuck off.
As is well known this is a south London based board. Yet no one else including those from south london is taking your side as no one agrees with you
Perhaps you might find other Internet sites more to your taste
You are right. I am paranoid about the 52% of people who voted brexit, shocked too that there are so many in this country who want to do such wanton damage.Not to mention 52% of the population hating him, which is suggestive of a degree of paranoia
It's your beloved EU that is making the demands that a hard border will have to exist if outside of the SM/CU.
You are interested in why?I note Irish republicans have proposed a solution to the national question for many decades, yet you show no interest in that. Why?
You are right. I am paranoid about the 52% of people who voted brexit, shocked too that there are so many in this country who want to do such wanton damage.
Rejoice in your victory. The UK is yours. Have a party with your mate Boris.Yeh. So?
Because the electorate don't know how to do it, so shift responsibility to the Tories to do it for them, and the Tories are experts at self serving exploitation for their own ends.I didn't like it either, initially, but the people have spoken. Why go against the democratic wishes of the electorate?
I do love a good “reckon” in the morning.I see nationalism as akin to fascism and would prefer no borders anywhere.
I can imagine yer man saying that. First in one higher pitched voice, then in his normal tone.
No it is your beloved brexit voters who want to take back control.It's your beloved EU that is making the demands that a hard border will have to exist if outside of the SM/CU.
I don't speak for everyone but no one speaks for you. I didn't suggest you should receive blows to the head but don't just take my word for it, revisit the posts you've so signally misunderstood.You speak for everyone do you?
Prove it.
Your embarrassment at suggesting a violent head injury is understandable I suppose, as is your desire for control and censorship, but reflect. I didn't suggest you received blows to the head, but you suggested I should.
So fuck off yourself, and stop trying to excuse your propensity towards violence by turning it into a rant against me. Look in the mirror.
You clueless cunt.Rejoice in your victory. The UK is yours. Have a party with your mate Boris.
The only person I've seen say this is the outgoing head of the WTO, Lamy. Also a key architect of the SM under Delors. Of course he's going to make out its 'impossible', he wants to protect capitalist structures.WTO actually.
Yeh people struggling to end an oppressor's rule are fascistic. Is that what you made of other anti-colonial struggles? Here's a tip: try to make your opinions ones worth holding rather than ones which make you look a clueless twat.You are interested in why?
Irish republicans have proposed united Ireland, a victory for nationalism. I see nationalism as akin to fascism and would prefer no borders anywhere.
Brexit voters who use the term 'we' when talking about the UK don't speak for me and some others as part of that 'we', they speak for the vile UK nationalists who reenforced that nationalism by voting brexit.
I speak for me isn't that good enough for you? Does your control freakery disallow that, as you scour this board for support and deny your earlier threats?I don't speak for everyone but no one speaks for you. I didn't suggest you should receive blows to the head but don't just take my word for it, revisit the posts you've so signally misunderstood.
No it is your beloved brexit voters who want to take back control.
Not at all, you can call me a cunt all you like (ironic as yesterday you spoke of our fair language), but if you voted brexit accept you are in bed with Boris and the rest. Have a nice cuddle.You clueless cunt.
At least he's stopped saying "hand wavy""Which was something like".... You're twisting peoples words again. You really cant help yourself can you.. Its a rhetorical style that only causes trouble and gets in the way of any informative, progressive discussions.
Give it a rest ffs
Other anti colonial struggles were a fight against often violent oppression (something I imagine you know about given your own violent tendencies), not a struggle to establish fascistic nationalistic governments, which was the unintended consequence of those struggles very often.Yeh people struggling to end an oppressor's rule are fascistic. Is that what you made of other anti-colonial struggles? Here's a tip: try to make your opinions ones worth holding rather than ones which make you look a clueless twat.
Well, there was no "get rid of the Tories" option on the ballot. I don't vote Tory, I don't vote for the right wing migrant drowning EU. Yet those who voted for the latter have the moral high ground ? Fuck off.Not at all, you can call me a cunt all you like (ironic as yesterday you spoke of our fair language), but if you voted brexit accept you are in bed with Boris and the rest. Have a nice cuddle.
Yeh people struggling to end an oppressor's rule are fascistic. Is that what you made of other anti-colonial struggles? Here's a tip: try to make your opinions ones worth holding rather than ones which make you look a clueless twat.
Is 'fuck off' the best you can do?Well, there was no "get rid of the Tories" option on the ballot. I don't vote Tory, I don't vote for the right wing migrant drowning EU. Yet those who voted for the latter have the moral high ground ? Fuck off.