Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[coley]

Sorry, I'm on a phone and not typing well and ended up rambling there!

I meant also to say that people do vote for all sorts of reasons. I know personally a couple of Lexit voters, one Leave voter who says it was about red tape, two who told me it was about the expense of the EU, one who is a racist, and online I was told by one an that it was all about Free Movement, and one who was a big Hannan fanboy and echoed his global free trade stuff.

And some people vote for no very good reason at all. There was a bit of a fuss about a viral clip of a French voter saying she was voting for Le Pen because, well, fuck it!

Of course, if you suggest for one minute that voters don't always act without at least great common sense then you're damned as a sneering elitist. But I think it's certainly true that a lot of people are not that interested in politics and the vast majority of our most popular printed media is slanted carp.

"Most of the printed media is "slanted Carp"
True, they are a fishy lot.
And most of the pro EU lot, print a load of 'codswallop'
And most financial bodies go fishing for bad news stories and end up with 'empty nets'

 

[2hats]

Can't see ICAO wearing that, whole point of regulationg is you have something than can be read by immigration of Metropolis and and a shack in Deepest Darkest Puru

Not now. But my point was - it'll change at some future time anyway.

 

[MightyTibberton]

You put me in my placid without even having to flex your mussels!

 

[Pickman's model]

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[pogofish]

Commemorated in stamps.

Words fail me:

 

[Pickman's model]

Words fail me:

even the central african republic is laughing at our politicians

 

[DotCommunist]

Farage doing the 'throwing an invisible pot' pose

 

[kabbes]

Farage doing the 'throwing an invisible pot' pose

And as for the Pig-Sticker's pose...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

And as for the Pig-Sticker's pose...

He's having a shit, or blowing his muck in a dead pigs's mouth.

or quite possibly, both.

 

[DotCommunist]

deffo a 'bustin a nut' face, as the yank dem say

 

[William of Walworth]

Those stamps are surely not real!

 

[hot air baboon]

that's the "I've just joined ISIS" pose isn't it

 

[pogofish]

Those stamps are surely not real!

They absolutely are..!

Stamperija
Stamperija

The Central African Republic seems to have a thriving thematic stamp industry dedicated to international events/personalities/flora and fauna.

I've just ordered these two, featuring Sergei Kolorev:

 

[MightyTibberton]

When I was a kid and had a stamp album, I seem to remember Bhutan issued lots of "collectible" stamps.

 

[Crispy]

v

They absolutely are..!

Stamperija
Stamperija

The Central African Republic seems to have a thriving thematic stamp industry dedicated to international events/personalities/flora and fauna.

I've just ordered these two, featuring Sergei Kolorev:

But Energia/Buran had nothing to do with him! Hrrmpf

 

[pogofish]

But Energia/Buran had nothing to do with him! Hrrmpf

Other than that Energia is now property of the S P Korolev Rocket and Space Corporation, whilst the Buran development team was the result of a forced merger of Korolev and Glushko's former research groups.

 

[Raheem]

Other than that Energia is now property of the S P Korolev Rocket and Space Corporation, whilst the Buran development team was the result of a forced merger of Korolev and Glushko's former research groups.

Nominated for least predictable thread tangent of the fortnight.

 

[Doppelgänger]

They absolutely are..!

Stamperija
Stamperija

Sadly the Brexit ones are fake, but they are hilariously funny. There are some coins out there issued by the Cook Islands though:

No Royal Mail Brexit stamps? Try these UK-EU souvenirs instead

 

[Winot]

Leaked letter in FT of Davis whining that EU is - shock - preparing for Brexit.

 

[bemused]

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Leaked letter in FT of Davis whining that EU is - shock - preparing for Brexit.

Did he use the same pen he uses to tag his name on the bus?

 

[Supine]

Leaked letter in FT of Davis whining that EU is - shock - preparing for Brexit.

The level of stupidity and incompetence being shown by our glorious leaders is well and truly embarrassing.

 

[SpookyFrank]

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Leaked letter in FT of Davis whining that EU is - shock - preparing for Brexit.

Reads like the work of a child who read a grown-up letter once and thought he'd give it a go.

 

[BemusedbyLife]

You get the impression that deep down Davis thinks all these problems would go away if Johnny Foreigner would stop messing around and just accept his place in the proper order of things, he doesn't seem to handle reality too well.

 

[sleaterkinney]

You get the impression that deep down Davis thinks all these problems would go away if Johnny Foreigner would stop messing around and just accept his place in the proper order of things, he doesn't seem to handle reality too well.

Stephen Collins on David Davis and Brexit – cartoon

 

[MightyTibberton]

This is another example - city of culture, agencies leaving - of Brexit being exactly what you would expect and UK government running round like idiots in shock and horror. I gather this was kicked off because a letter was sent from the EU saying that on the date of leaving the UK would no longer be a part of a road haulage licensing scheme run by the EU.

What a fucking joke this government is.

And don't forget a good number of Tory MPs want No Deal so they can live out their libertarian fantasies and privatise the fuck out of what little we have left of public ownership in this country.

The idea that we're going to have negotiated dozens of new free trade deals around the world before we leave is a fucking fantasy. And these Sovereignty fuckers better be so worried about off-shore decision making when we sign a deal with America that allows trans-Atlantic investment courts to decide that, yes, it is just fine for the Ayn Rand Insurance Corp of Delaware to charge your father for heart surgery because they can do it in Ohio and you can't make laws that interfere with their business model.

 

[MightyTibberton]

 

[Pickman's model]

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there are not enough facepalms in the world for the way hmg is (mis)handling this. it's the sorriest thing i have ever seen in a long list of sorry things i have seen.

 

[MightyTibberton]

I am starting to think that they are doing it deliberately.

There are more than enough Leave Means Leave/no deal is better than a bad deal Tory MPs to bring the Government down in a second if they feel like it. They have to be appeased. It's also been doing the rounds in the last couple of days that the Tory party now only has around 70,000 members - I should imagine that's a pretty hardcore group now.

Any deal is going to be (I accept this maybe just in the short term) worse for the economy and cause a big economic shock. And, in any case, May has made Red Line promises that just don't add up and cannot all be kept.

Brexiters are desperately spinning an "unreasonable EU" line coupled with best-off-out-of-it stuff about further intergration and armies and superstates and Turkey and the imminent collapse of the whole shebang (which some of them want), and will in the end - I now think, unless there's an election - throw up their hands and scream, "we can't do a deal with these people!" No Deal will follow. . .

I never wanted a second referendum, largely on the basis that the first one was so divisive and stressful, but I think the Labour Party should now think about offering a Final Say vote on the deal. I still personally don't know quite what I think is right, but I think we're going to No Deal.

Only Oprah can save us now!

 

[Pickman's model]

I am starting to think that they are doing it deliberately.

There are more than enough Leave Means Leave/no deal is better than a bad deal Tory MPs to bring the Government down in a second if they feel like it. They have to be appeased. It's also been doing the rounds in the last couple of days that the Tory party now only has around 70,000 members - I should imagine that's a pretty hardcore group now.

Any deal is going to be (I accept this maybe just in the short term) worse for the economy and cause a big economic shock. And, in any case, May has made Red Line promises that just don't add up and cannot all be kept.

Brexiters are desperately spinning an "unreasonable EU" line coupled with best-off-out-of-it stuff about further intergration and armies and superstates and Turkey and the imminent collapse of the whole shebang (which some of them want), and will in the end - I now think, unless there's an election - throw up their hands and scream, "we can't do a deal with these people!" No Deal will follow. . .

I never wanted a second referendum, largely on the basis that the first one was so divisive and stressful, but I think the Labour Party should now think about offering a Final Say vote on the deal. I still personally don't know quite what I think is right, but I think we're going to No Deal.

Only Oprah can save us now!

tbh i still think the government's going to row back because there is no way they can get any sort of deal which doesn't bugger the economy. there is no surer way of ushering jeremy corbyn into 10 downing street than the government pursuing the course they're on.

 

[MightyTibberton]

You seem to think that the government are competent, honest, and primarilly interested in the public good, Pickman.